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Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst vs Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged

Reasons to Get
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst over Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged

Number of Frets
20 vs 22
Warmer neck pickup
Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Type of Frets
Narrow Tall vs Medium Jumbo
You won't feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Modern Thin "U" vs Traditional 1960s SlimTaper C Profile
Comfortable neck with more grip
Pickup Mods
Coil Split vs None
Splits humbuckers into single coil pickups
Body Type
Semi-Hollow vs Solid Body
Lighter and allows more gain than a hollowbody
Nut Width
1.687'' (42.8mm) vs 1.688'' (42.9mm)
Favors small hands, easier bar chords and other shapes
Paint Finish
Poly vs Heavy Relic
Resistant paint that ages well
Bridge
Fixed vs Tremolo
Good sustain and needs no set-up
Fretboard Radius
12.5'' (317.5mm) vs 12'' (304.8mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend
Value Score
73 vs 59
Better price/quality relationship

Reasons to Get
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged over Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst

Country of Manufacturing
United States vs Indonesia
Built with higher quality standards
Release Year
2022 vs 2020
From a more recent year
Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo vs Narrow Tall
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Traditional 1960s SlimTaper C Profile vs Modern Thin "U"
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Pickups Brand
Gibson Custom vs None
Pickups from a renown brand
Nut Material
Nylon vs Other
Resistant nut with good tuning stability
Neck Joint
Neck-Through vs Set
Stronger neck and easier access to upper frets
Body Type
Solid Body vs Semi-Hollow
Feedback free
Volume Knobs
2 vs 1
More volume control
Tone Knobs
2 vs 1
More tone control
Number of Frets
22 vs 20
Allows to reach higher notes
Nut Width
1.688'' (42.9mm) vs 1.687'' (42.8mm)
Less likely to mute strings by accident and more space for fingerstyle
Paint Finish
Heavy Relic vs Poly
Looks like an old and heavily beaten up instrument
Bridge
Tremolo vs Fixed
Simple vibratos without too much maintenance
Fretboard Radius
12'' (304.8mm) vs 12.5'' (317.5mm)
More curved fretboard helpful to play chords without muting strings

Other Key Differences
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst vs Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged

Bridge Pickup
Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Bridge vs Firebird Alnico V
Different Bridge Pickup
Neck Pickup
Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Neck vs Firebird Alnico V
Different Neck Pickup
Body Wood
Maple vs Mahogany
Different Body Wood
Headstock
3-3 vs R6
Different Headstock
Nut Material
Other vs Nylon
Different Nut Material

Shared Features
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst vs Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged

Neck Wood
Mahogany
Same Neck Wood
Fretboard Wood
Rosewood
Same Fretboard Wood
Strings
6
Same playing style
Switch Positions
3
Same pickups versatility
Pickups
HH
High output without hum
Scale Length
24.75'' (628.7mm)
Same string tension and fret separation
Pickups Power
Passive
Cleaner sound and no battery needed

Common Strengths

  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Locking Tuners
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • High-Quality Frets
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

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Which One is Better Overall?

After going through our comparison algorithm, the results show that the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged is probably the better product overall with its final score of 74 compared to the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's 68 score, although not by a lot.

The Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged wins when it comes to sound, build quality. On the other hand, the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst has the upper hand when it comes to playability, value for the money.

If you got small hands, none of these instruments will make a big difference when it comes to comfortability.

Which One is Better for Beginners?

If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst is the better choice.

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst meets 5 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged meets only 4. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.

New Player Friendliness

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Tall frets
  • Narrow nut
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Short scale
  • Locking tuners

New Player Friendliness

Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Tall frets
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Narrow nut
  • Short scale
  • Locking tuners

Nevertheless, when it comes to choosing an instrument, you should pick the one more compatible with your personal style. Still, below we'll try you to give you our results as objectively as it's possible to help you decide.

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Overview

  • From Guild's 2020 Newark St. Collection series
  • Made in Indonesia
  • 6 strings
  • 24.75"'' scale
  • 12.5" Fretboard Radius
  • Maple body
  • Mahogany neck
  • Indian Rosewood fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Bridge (Humbucker/Passive)
  • Neck pickup: Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Neck (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 1 volume and 1 tone Bell knobs
  • 3-way Switch
  • Guild Tune-O-Matic Nickel bridge
  • Modern Thin "U" Set neck
  • 20 Narrow Tall frets
  • Guild Vintage 18 Open Gear tuners
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Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Overview

  • From Gibson Custom's 2022 Murphy Lab series
  • Made in United States
  • 6 strings
  • 24.75"'' scale
  • 12" Fretboard Radius
  • Layered Mahogany body
  • 9-ply Mahogany/Walnut neck
  • Indian Rosewood fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker/Passive)
  • Neck pickup: Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 2 volume and 2 tone Bell knobs
  • 3-way Switch
  • ABR-1 Maestro Short Vibrola bridge
  • Traditional 1960s SlimTaper C Profile Neck-Through neck
  • 22 Medium Jumbo frets
  • Deluxe Banjo Tuners tuners
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Sound Quality Comparison

The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

Woods Used in Both

Mahogany wood pattern used for guitar building
Mahogany
Rosewood wood pattern used for guitar building
Rosewood

Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.

Rosewood is an almost purple-looking wood that is used mainly for fretboards since it's heavy, rare, and expensive. It's sometimes used on acoustic guitar bodies to create stronger warm tones. Find out more about Rosewood.

Woods Used in the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst

Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
Maple

Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

Winner: Tie.

Pickup Configuration

Both pickup configurations are HH. Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

Pickups Quality

The Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged pickups from a more specialized brand than the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst. Its pickups should give you a fuller, richer sound, although it all depends on what type of music you're going to play. We recommend these pickups for Hard Rock and similar genres.

Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.

Winner: Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged.

Versatility Comparison

Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

Switch Options

Both are equal when it comes to the pickup switching option.

Only the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst comes with some kind of pickup modification: Coil Split.

Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst doesn't come with pickup switching options.

Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's switch options

When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

Winner: Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged.

Final Sound Quality Scores

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst
Pickups 60
Sustain 80
Versatility 59
Tuning Stability 65
Sound 66
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
Pickups 90
Sustain 70
Versatility 63
Tuning Stability 65
Sound 72

Build Quality Comparison

When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst compares to the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged.

Country of Origin

The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst is built in Indonesia while the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged is made in United States.

Indonesia is becoming the most popular country for guitar building because they can make good instruments for a low price. Some people think that they're 'the new China' when it comes to build quality. But the truth is that Indonesian guitars are more consistent, although Chinese quality has improved a lot in the last few years.

The United States is considered one of the best electric guitar manufacturers in the world. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. Nowadays, guitars made in other countries can beat some of the ones made in the US, but most of the time, this country offers the best you can get. Of course, that comes at a price.

Winner: Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged

Nut Material

If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst has a Other nut. It's an uncommon material that lacks more information.

On the other hand, the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged comes with a Nylon nut. It used to be one of the highest quality materials for nuts (and still is), but it's rare to find nowadays because it's hard to work with. It's a very resistant material with very low friction, so it will keep the guitar in tune and will last for a long time

Winner: Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged.

Fret Material

Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.

Winner: Tie.

Bridge

The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's brige is a Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.

On the other hand, the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's is a Tremolo. Tremolo bridges give you more versatility than fixed bridges. They let you perform the intense vibrato effects that would be impossible with a fixed bridge. However, since the bridge floats and there's less contact with the body, the strings lose sustain slightly faster. They can also be a bit harder to restring and set up correctly than fixed bridges.

Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

Winner: Tie.

Tuners

Both come with regular tuners. The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's are Guild Vintage 18 Open Gear while the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's are Deluxe Banjo Tuners

Winner: Tie.

Neck Joint

Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst has a Set neck joint. This neck is tightly glued to the body. They give you the least versatility because you can't swap them for a neck that fits your hand better if you want to, unlike bolt-on necks. Some people think this gives more resonance and sustain, but there's no real difference if the bolt-on joint is well built.

On the other hand, the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged comes with Neck-Through neck joint. This neck is a lot more resistant and lets builders give the neck joint a more comfortable shape for soloing at the upper frets. The disadvantage is that they're more expensive and that if you damage your neck, you can't simply replace it like with bolt-on necks.

Winner: Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged.

Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

Strengths & Weaknesses
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst
  • Expensive Wood
  • Coil Split Pickups
  • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
  • No Locking Tuners
  • Made in Indonesia
  • No High-Quality Nut
  • No Top Brand Pickups
  • No Neck-Through Build
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Tremolo
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock
Strengths & Weaknesses
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
  • Made in United States
  • Expensive Wood
  • Nylon Nut
  • Top Brand Pickups
  • Neck-Through Build
  • Tremolo
  • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
  • No Locking Tuners
  • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
  • No Weight Relief
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock

Final Build Quality Scores

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst
Quality of materials 46
Features 60
Quality Control 70
Build Quality 59
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
Quality of materials 56
Features 65
Quality Control 100
Build Quality 74

Playability Comparison

Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

Nut Width

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Nut Width
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Nut Width
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Nut Width
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Nut Width

The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged has the wider nut with 42.9mm (1.688'') vs 42.8mm (1.687''). This is a 0.1mm (0.00099999999999989'') difference

This means that it will be more difficult to do bar chords on the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged, especially closer to the nut. However, it's also easier to play without muting strings accidently. This favors people with big hands.

Scale Length

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst and Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's Scale Length
Both have the same scale length

The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

In this case, both have a scale length of 24.75".

This is the scale length that Gibson uses for most of its Les Paul guitars. It's a smaller scale than the typical Stratocaster's 25.5''. Short scale lengths like this make it easier to bend the strings, which is pretty important if you have a fixed bridge. They also have a shorter fret separation, which makes it easier to change position fast at the fretboard.

On the other hand, a shorter scale like this one will make fret buzz more likely, which can affect you if you want to use thicker string gauges.

Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

Neck Profile

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Neck Profile
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's neck profile
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Neck Profile
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's neck profile

No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

In this case, both have different neck shapes:

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst has a U type of neck. This is also referred to as ''baseball neck'' because of its shape. It's usually thick, which is why some people with big hands like it. However, they can also be thin, similar to a C shape, but with more shoulders for a better grip.

The Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged, on the other hand, has a C neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

Fretboard Radius

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Fingerboard Radius
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's Fingerboard radius
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Fingerboard Radius
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's Fingerboard radius

Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

In this case, the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst.

Still, both tend to favor soloing over chords, so if you're looking for a guitar for playing rhythm, you might want something else with a radius closer to a Stratocaster's 9.5''.

Hand Size Comfortability

Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements.

After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both in this comparison favor small hands .

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst:
Big Hands
Small Hands
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged:
Big Hands
Small Hands

Fret Size

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Frets Size
Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst's Frets Size
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged Frets Size
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's Frets Size

The Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst has Narrow Tall frets, which should be taller than the Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged's Medium Jumbo frets.

Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

Final Playability Scores

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst
Bending & Vibrato Ease 95
Chord Playability 75
Solo Playability 70
Playability 80
Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
Bending & Vibrato Ease 80
Chord Playability 65
Solo Playability 80
Playability 75

Specs Side-by-Side

Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst vs Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
General Guild Starfire I SC Antique Burst Gibson Custom 1963 Firebird V With Maestro Vibrola Heavy Aged
Brand: Guild Gibson Custom
Year: 2020 2022
Configuration: HH HH
Strings: 6 6
Made in: Indonesia United States
Series: Newark St. Collection Murphy Lab
Colors: White, Sunburst, Green, Brown Blue
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Semi-Hollow Solid Body
Body Material: Maple Layered Mahogany
Bridge: Guild Tune-O-Matic Nickel ABR-1 Maestro Short Vibrola
Neck
Neck Joint: Set Neck-Through
Tuners: Guild Vintage 18 Open Gear Deluxe Banjo Tuners
Fretboard: Indian Rosewood Indian Rosewood
Neck Material: Mahogany 9-ply Mahogany/Walnut
Decoration: 5mm Dots - Pearloid Aged Cellulose Nitrate Trapezoid
Scale Size: 24.75" 24.75"
Shape: Modern Thin "U" Traditional 1960s SlimTaper C Profile
Thickness: 1st Fret: 0.787'' (20mm) - 12th Fret: 0.886'' (22.5mm) 1st Fret: - 12th Fret:
Frets: 20 Narrow Tall Nickel Silver 22 Medium Jumbo Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 12.5" 12"
Nut: Other Nylon
Nut Width: 42.8mm (1.687'') 42.9mm (1.688'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickup: Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Bridge (Humbucker / Passive) Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker / Passive)
Middle Pickup:
Neck Pickup: Guild HB-2 Humbucker Nickel Neck (Humbucker / Passive) Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker / Passive)
Switch: 3 Way 3 Way
Knobs: Bell Bell
Pickup Mods: Coil Split None
Volume Controls: 1 2
Tone Controls: 1 2