LTD Royal Shiva vs Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Reasons to Get
LTD Royal Shiva over Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Reasons to Get
Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr over ESP LTD Royal Shiva
Other Key Differences
LTD Royal Shiva vs Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Shared Features
LTD Royal Shiva vs Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Common Strengths
- Locking Tuners
- High-Quality Nut
- Top Pickup Brand
- Expensive Wood
Common Weaknesses
- Neck-Through Build
- Stays in Tune (Evertune)
- High-Quality Frets
- Compound Radius Fretboard
- Luminescent Sidedots
- 21:1 Tuner Ratio
- Active/Passive Preamp
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Price History Comparison
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Which One is Better Overall?
After going through our comparison algorithm, the results show that both instruments scored 75 out of 100, which makes them similar in terms of quality.
The Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr wins when it comes to build quality. On the other hand, the ESP LTD Royal Shiva has the upper hand when it comes to sound, value for the money.
If you got small hands, you'll probably feel that the ESP LTD Royal Shiva is easier to play.
Which One is Better for Beginners?
If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, the ESP LTD Royal Shiva is the better choice.
The ESP LTD Royal Shiva meets 5 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr meets only 4. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.
New Player Friendliness
ESP LTD Royal Shiva- Comfortable shape
- Easy-to-use bridge
- Locking tuners
- Tall frets
- Comfortable neck
- Comfortable fretboard
- Narrow nut
- Short scale
New Player Friendliness
Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr- Comfortable shape
- Locking tuners
- Tall frets
- Short scale
- Comfortable fretboard
- Narrow nut
- Comfortable neck
- Easy-to-use bridge
Nevertheless, when it comes to choosing an instrument, you should pick the one more compatible with your personal style. Still, below we'll try you to give you our results as objectively as it's possible to help you decide.
ESP LTD Royal Shiva Overview
- From ESP LTD's 2024 Artist series
- Bill Kelliher Signature
- Made in South Korea
- 6 strings
- 25"'' scale
- 12" Fretboard Radius
- Mahogany w/ Maple Cap body
- 3Pc Mahogany neck
- Macassar Ebony fretboard
- Bridge pickup: MojoTone Hell Bender Neck w/ Nickel Cover *(Pull Volume for Split) (Humbucker/Passive)
- Neck pickup: MojoTone Hell Bender Neck w/ Nickel Cover *(Pull Tone for Split) (Humbucker/Passive)
- 1 volume and 1 tone Dome knobs
- 3-way Switch
- Tonepros Locking TOM & Tailpiece bridge
- U Set neck
- 22 XL Jumbo frets
- LTD Locking tuners
- Compare Specs >
Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr Overview
- From Gretsch's 2019 Professional Collection series
- Made in Japan
- 6 strings
- 24.6"'' scale
- 12" Fretboard Radius
- Flame Maple top
- Laminated Maple body
- Maple neck
- Ebony fretboard
- Bridge pickup: Gretsch Full'Tron (Humbucker/Passive)
- Neck pickup: Gretsch Full'Tron (Humbucker/Passive)
- 3 volume and 1 tone Speed knobs
- 3-way Switch
- Bigsby B7CP String-Thru bridge
- Standard U Set neck
- 22 Medium Jumbo frets
- Gotoh Locking tuners
- Compare Specs >
Sound Quality Comparison
The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.
Woods Used in Both
Ebony is a high-end wood, so it is not cheap. It's only used for fretboards because it's also very heavy. It does an excellent job as a durable material while looking elegant. Find out more about Ebony.
Woods Used in the ESP LTD Royal Shiva
Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.
Woods Used in the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.
Winner: ESP LTD Royal Shiva.
Pickup Configuration
Both pickup configurations are HH. Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.
Pickups Quality
Both come with very good pickups from at least one of the specialized brands in the market. With pickups like these, you probably won't need an upgrade anytime soon.
Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.
Winner: Tie.
Versatility Comparison
Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.
Switch Options
Both are equal when it comes to the pickup switching option.
Only the ESP LTD Royal Shiva comes with some kind of pickup modification: Coil Split, Coil Tap.
Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.
Coil Tap is similar to Coil Split but it works a bit differently. Instead of completely cancelling one of the coils of the humbucker, it only cuts part of the output once activated. Some people believe this gives the split pickups a more real single-coil sound.
They both share the following switching options:
When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.
Winner: ESP LTD Royal Shiva.
Final Sound Quality Scores
Build Quality Comparison
When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the ESP LTD Royal Shiva compares to the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr.
Country of Origin
The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The ESP LTD Royal Shiva is built in South Korea while the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr is made in Japan.
South Korea was for many years the number one choice for mass-producing semi-premium guitars. They can build excellent guitars for a cheap price. Now, it's less common to find Korean guitars because Indonesia has proved capable of building guitars just as well, but likely for cheaper.
Japan has a long history of high-quality guitar building. Little has changed in terms of their manufacturing and quality control over the years. Many guitars made in this country can be compared—and even beat—others made in the US.
Winner: Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
Nut Material
If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.
The ESP LTD Royal Shiva has a Bone nut. It's a type of nut found in high-quality instruments. They sound similar to Ivory since they give a lot of sustain and a bright sound (at least when striking open strings). The only problem they can run into is that you may get a bone piece that simply doesn't sound as well as others because that's just how natural materials are.
On the other hand, the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr comes with a Ivory Tusq nut. Ivory used to be considered the best material for guitar nuts due to its beauty, durability, and the rich harmonics and sustain you could get from a guitar with it. However, the way to obtain it is simply unethical. Enter TUSQ ivory nuts, which are made synthetically to imitate ivory. Technically, it's better than ivory because it is consistent piece-to-piece, while natural materials can vary a lot, even if they're made from the same.
Winner: Tie.
Fret Material
Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.
Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.
Winner: Tie.
Bridge
The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.
The ESP LTD Royal Shiva's brige is a Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.
On the other hand, the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr's is a Bigsby Tremolo. Bigsby tremolos are built differently than regular tremolos. They have a stiffer arm, which is something a lot of people like because the arm won't wiggle around a lot. On the other hand, this type of tremolo is more complicated to restring and it might not be as newbie-friendly as other simpler tremolos.
Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.
Winner: Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr.
Tuners
They both have locking tuners. They'll help to keep your guitar in tune because they allow you to tune it without wrapping the strings around the posts. This avoids variations in the tuning due to the strings changing position at the post after a bend. They come at the disadvantage of being slightly heavier than regular tuners. Also, it makes it a lot easier to restring.
Winner: Tie.
Neck Joint
Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.
Both have a Set neck joint. This neck is tightly glued to the body. They give you the least versatility because you can't swap them for a neck that fits your hand better if you want to, unlike bolt-on necks. Some people think this gives more resonance and sustain, but there's no real difference if the bolt-on joint is well built.
Winner: Tie.
Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:
ESP LTD Royal Shiva
- Locking Tuners
- Expensive Wood
- Bone Nut
- Top Brand Pickups
- Coil Split, Coil Tap Pickups
- Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
- Made in South Korea
- No Neck-Through Build
- No Weight Relief
- No Luminescent Inlay
- No Tremolo
- No Compound Radius Fretboard
- No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
- No Strap Lock
Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr
- Locking Tuners
- Made in Japan
- Expensive Wood
- Ivory Tusq Nut
- Top Brand Pickups
- Tremolo
- Strap Lock
- Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
- No Neck-Through Build
- No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
- No Luminescent Inlay
- No Compound Radius Fretboard
- No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
Final Build Quality Scores
Playability Comparison
Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.
Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.
Nut Width
The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, the ESP LTD Royal Shiva has the wider nut with 43mm (1.693'') vs 42.9mm (1.688''). This is a 0.1mm (0.0050000000000001'') difference
This means that it will be more difficult to do bar chords on the ESP LTD Royal Shiva, especially closer to the nut. However, it's also easier to play without muting strings accidently. This favors people with big hands.
Scale Length
The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.
The ESP LTD Royal Shiva has the longest scale: 25". The Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr is only 24.6" long. This is a 0.4'' (10.2mm) scale length difference.
This longer scale means that the strings need more tension to get in tune. This is good if you want to avoid fret buzz, which can happen when the strings are too loose and touch the frets while vibrating. This is especially important when playing in lower tunings. This will also let you reduce the gap between fretboard and strings (low action) to make them easier to press down. However, this higher tension will also make it harder to perform bends and vibratos as the strings will feel stiffer.
This also means that the frets have a longer separation between each other, so this will make it harder for people with smaller hands when playing some chord positions.
Another characteristic of a longer scale is that it makes the guitar sound 'snappier' or brighter. This is due to the extra separation between harmonics and overtones produced by the tension. This influences tone more than any other factor (except the pickups).
Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.
Neck Profile
No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.
Both the ESP LTD Royal Shiva and the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr have a U-shaped neck. This is also referred to as ''baseball neck'' because of its shape. It's usually thick, which is why some people with big hands like it. However, they can also be thin, similar to a C shape, but with more shoulders for a better grip.
Fretboard Radius
Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.
Both the ESP LTD Royal Shiva and the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr have the same fretboard radius of 12". This is the radius used in most Gibson guitars. It gives you a good balance for playing chords without muting, but also good comfortability for playing single notes and bending.
Hand Size Comfortability
Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements.
And after taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr favors large hands more than the ESP LTD Royal Shiva.
ESP LTD Royal Shiva:
Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr:
Fret Size
The ESP LTD Royal Shiva has XL Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Gretsch G6659TFM Players Edition Broadkaster Jr's Medium Jumbo frets.
Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.
