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Build
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Score
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Score
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Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String vs Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String Specs Comparison
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General
Brand: Sire Sire
Year: 2021 2019
Configuration: SS SS
Strings: 4 4
Made in: Indonesia Indonesia
Series: V V
Colors: White, Sunburst, Red, Natural White, Sunburst, Black, Blue, Pink, Red
Left-Handed Version: Yes Yes
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Swamp Ash North American Alder
Bridge: Marcus Miller Vintage-S Marcus Miller Modern S
Neck
Neck Joint: Bolt-On Bolt-On
Tuners: Premium Open-Gear Premium Open-Gear
Fretboard: Hard Maple Ebony
Neck Material: Hard Maple(Gloss Finish) Hard Maple (Satin Finish)
Decoration: Black Block White Pearloid Block
Scale Size: 34" 34"
Shape: Bass C-Shape Bass C-Shape
Frets: 22 Vintage Nickel Silver 22 Medium Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 7.25" 9.5"
Nut: Bone Bone
Nut Width: 38mm (1.496'') 38mm (1.496'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickups: Marcus Vintage-J Revolution (Single Coil / Passive) Marcus Super-J Revolution (Single Coil / Passive)
Middle Pickup:
Neck Pickup: Marcus Vintage-J Revolution (Single Coil / Passive) Marcus Super-J Revolution (Single Coil / Passive)
Switch: 0 Way 0 Way
Knobs: Dome Dome
Pickup Mods: None None
Volume Controls: 2 2
Tone Controls: 4 4
Hardware
Strap Lock: No No
Hardware Color: Chrome Chrome

Reasons to Get
Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String over Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String

Release Year
2021 vs 2019
From a more recent year
Fretboard Radius
7.25'' (184.2mm) vs 9.5'' (241.3mm)
Easier to play chords without muting strings
Value Score
80 vs 78
Better price/quality relationship

Reasons to Get
Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String over Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String

Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Fretboard Radius
9.5'' (241.3mm) vs 7.25'' (184.2mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend

Other Key Differences
Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String vs Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String

Bridge Pickup
Marcus Vintage-J Revolution vs Marcus Super-J Revolution
Different Bridge Pickup
Neck Pickup
Marcus Vintage-J Revolution vs Marcus Super-J Revolution
Different Neck Pickup
Body Wood
Ash vs Alder
Different Body Wood
Fretboard Wood
Maple vs Ebony
Different Fretboard Wood

Shared Features
Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String vs Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String

Neck Wood
Maple
Same Neck Wood
Headstock
4
Same Headstock
Nut Material
Bone
Same Nut Material
Strings
4
Same playing style
Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Switch Positions
0
Same pickups versatility
Volume Knobs
2
Same volume control
Tone Knobs
4
Same tone control
Pickups
SS
Beautiful cleans
Number of Frets
22
Same maximum octave
Nut Width
1.496'' (38mm)
Same string separation at the nut
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well
Bridge
Fixed
Good sustain and needs no set-up
Scale Length
34'' (863.6mm)
Same string tension and fret separation
Pickups Power
Passive
Cleaner sound and no battery needed
Neck Profile Type
C
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Neck Joint
Bolt-On
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Type of Frets
Vintage vs Medium
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings

Common Strengths

  • High-Quality Nut
  • Top Pickup Brand
  • Expensive Wood
  • Active/Passive Preamp

Common Weaknesses

  • Neck-Through Build
  • Pickup Alter Switch/Knob
  • Weight Relief
  • Retainer Bar
  • High-Quality Frets
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • From a High-Quality-Standards Country
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio

Price History Comparison

Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String Prices

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    Hand Size Comfortability

    After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both are balanced for most hand sizes.

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String:
    Big Hands
    Small Hands
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String:
    Big Hands
    Small Hands

    Beginner Friendliness

    The Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String meets 4 out of our 6 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String meets only 2. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.

    New Player Friendliness

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String
    • Comfortable shape
    • Comfortable neck
    • Comfortable fretboard
    • Tall frets
    • Narrow nut
    • Short scale

    New Player Friendliness

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String
    • Comfortable shape
    • Comfortable fretboard
    • Tall frets
    • Comfortable neck
    • Narrow nut
    • Short scale

    Sound Quality Comparison

    The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

    Woods Used in Both

    Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
    Maple

    Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

    Woods Used in the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String

    Ash wood pattern used for guitar building
    Ash

    Ash is a type of wood that Fender used almost exclusively in the 50s, and it's still used by many brands. It's a dense wood with a light color that works well for a transparent, natural finish because of its beautiful patterns. In terms of sound, it's known for emphasizing the mid and high frequencies, but with strong low end. Find out more about Ash.

    Woods Used in the Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String

    Ebony wood pattern used for guitar building
    Ebony
    Alder wood pattern used for guitar building
    Alder

    Ebony is a high-end wood, so it is not cheap. It's only used for fretboards because it's also very heavy. It does an excellent job as a durable material while looking elegant. Find out more about Ebony.

    Alder is the most popular wood that Fender uses in most of their guitars nowadays. Even though they say it's because of its balanced tone with an emphasis in the upper midrange, it probably is because it isn't too expensive, and it's also pretty lightweight—more than Mahogany. Find out more about Alder.

    Winner: Tie.

    Pickup Configuration

    Both pickup configurations are SS. SS is the classic Telecaster configuration. It's used mainly for playing clean or with low-gain distortion, and it's very popular for the country genre because of their brightness. It doesn't give you as much versatility as a Strat SSS configuration, but you might like the cleaner look of a guitar body with fewer pickups.

    Pickups Quality

    Both come with some of the top pickups on the market. You can't go wrong with either of them. You'll probably never need a pickup upgrade.

    Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.

    Preamp Circuit

    A preamp in an electric bass functions as an electronic circuit that acts as an interface between the bass's pickups and the amplifier. Its main purpose is to amplify and customize the bass's initial signal before it reaches the amplifier, offering enhanced control over factors like tone, volume, and sound attributes. Preamps typically come equipped with tone adjustments, equalization options, and sometimes built-in effects, empowering bass players to fine-tune their sound to suit their personal preferences and the musical environment.

    Both basses have a Active/Passive preamp.

    Active/Passive: This type of circuit combines both passive and active electronics in one instrument. This versatile setup allows the player to switch between passive and active modes, providing a wide range of tonal options. In passive mode, the bass relies on traditional passive pickups and tone controls for a warm and organic sound. In active mode, the onboard preamp circuit is engaged, offering enhanced EQ shaping capabilities and sometimes a signal boost. This flexibility caters to a broader spectrum of musical styles and playing preferences, as it allows the bassist to switch between the classic, vintage tone of passive operation and the more versatile and finely tuned active mode, all within the same instrument.

    Winner: Tie.

    Versatility Comparison

    Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

    Switch Options

    Both are equal when it comes to the pickup switching option.

    Neither of them come with some kind of coil split or pickup mod option. This makes both lacking in terms of versatility.

    When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

    Winner: Tie.

    Final Sound Quality Scores

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String
    Pickups 100
    Sustain 65
    Versatility 93
    Tuning Stability 80
    Sound 85
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String
    Pickups 100
    Sustain 65
    Versatility 93
    Tuning Stability 80
    Sound 85

    Build Quality Comparison

    When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String compares to the Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String.

    Country of Origin

    The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. Both in this comparison where made in Indonesia.

    Indonesia is becoming the most popular country for guitar building because they can make good instruments for a low price. Some people think that they're 'the new China' when it comes to build quality. But the truth is that Indonesian guitars are more consistent, although Chinese quality has improved a lot in the last few years.

    Winner: Tie

    Nut Material

    If you want your bass to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

    In this case, both have Bone nuts. It's a type of nut found in high-quality instruments. They sound similar to Ivory since they give a lot of sustain and a bright sound (at least when striking open strings). The only problem they can run into is that you may get a bone piece that simply doesn't sound as well as others because that's just how natural materials are.

    Fret Material

    Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

    Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.

    Winner: Tie.

    Tuners

    Both come with regular tuners. Both come with Premium Open-Gear.

    Winner: Tie.

    Neck Joint

    Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a bass is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

    Both have a Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

    Winner: Tie.

    Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

    Strengths & Weaknesses
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String
    • Expensive Wood
    • Bone Nut
    • Top Brand Pickups
    • Active/Passive Preamp
    • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
    • No Locking Tuners
    • Made in Indonesia
    • No Neck-Through Build
    • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
    • No Weight Relief
    • No Luminescent Inlay
    • No Compound Radius Fretboard
    • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
    • No Retainer Bar
    • No Strap Lock
    Strengths & Weaknesses
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String
    • Expensive Wood
    • Bone Nut
    • Top Brand Pickups
    • Active/Passive Preamp
    • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
    • No Locking Tuners
    • Made in Indonesia
    • No Neck-Through Build
    • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
    • No Weight Relief
    • No Luminescent Inlay
    • No Compound Radius Fretboard
    • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
    • No Retainer Bar
    • No Strap Lock

    Final Build Quality Scores

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String
    Quality of materials 56
    Features 75
    Quality Control 70
    Build Quality 67
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String
    Quality of materials 56
    Features 75
    Quality Control 70
    Build Quality 67

    Playability Comparison

    Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a bass might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

    Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a bass feels in your hands.

    Nut Width

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String Nut Width
    Both Guitars Have The Same Nut Width

    The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, both have a nut width of 38mm (1.496'').

    This is within the most common range of nut widths for a 4-string bass. It offers a good balance of string separation at the nut. It's the size that most guitarists prefer as it gives them just enough space to play open chords without muting the strings, but without spreading the strings too wide and making bar chords difficult to perform.

    Scale Length

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String and Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String's Scale Length
    Both have the same scale length

    The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

    In this case, both have a scale length of 34".

    This is a scale used for baritones and guitars with more than 6 strings. Since the scale is so long, the tension of the strings will be higher. This means that bending will require a lot more strength than with a shorter scale. However, it also allows you to use really low tunings without causing fret buzz and without needing to increase your string gauge too much.

    Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

    Neck Profile

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String Neck Profile
    Both guitars have the same neck profile

    No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

    Both the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String and the Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String have a C-shaped neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

    Fretboard Radius

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String Fingerboard Radius
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String's Fingerboard radius
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String Fingerboard Radius
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String's Fingerboard radius

    Most bass fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

    In this case, the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String.

    Fret Size

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String Frets Size
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String's Frets Size
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String Frets Size
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String's Frets Size

    The Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String has Medium frets, which should be taller than the Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String's Vintage frets.

    Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

    Final Playability Scores

    Sire Marcus Miller V7 Vintage 2nd Generation Ash 4-String
    Bending & Vibrato Ease 65
    Chord Playability 90
    Solo Playability 60
    Playability 72
    Sire Marcus Miller V7 2nd Generation Alder 4-String
    Bending & Vibrato Ease 65
    Chord Playability 80
    Solo Playability 60
    Playability 68