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Music Man Valentine Tremolo vs Luke 3 HH Maple Top

Reasons to Get
Music Man Valentine Tremolo over Luke 3 HH Maple Top

Fret Material
Stainless Steel vs Nickel Silver
Best fret material that will last forever
Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Neck Profile
Valentine vs Steve Lukather
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Pickup Mods
Coil Split vs Boost
Splits humbuckers into single coil pickups
Pickups
SH vs HH
Very bright bridge tone and a very warm neck pickup
Fretboard Radius
10'' (254mm) vs 12'' (304.8mm)
More curved fretboard helpful to play chords without muting strings
Value Score
65 vs 60
Better price/quality relationship

Reasons to Get
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top over Valentine Tremolo

Decorative Top
Figured Maple vs None
Finished with beautiful natural wood patterns
Release Year
2020 vs 2018
From a more recent year
Neck Profile
Steve Lukather vs Valentine
Great if you like to hang your thumb over the fretboard
Pickup Mods
Boost vs Coil Split
Increases the output of the pickup
Switch Positions
5 vs 3
More tone options
Pickups
HH vs SH
High output without hum
Fretboard Radius
12'' (304.8mm) vs 10'' (254mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend

Other Key Differences
Music Man Valentine Tremolo vs Luke 3 HH Maple Top

Bridge Pickup
Music Man Custom Single Coil vs Music Man Custom Humbucker
Different Bridge Pickup
Body Wood
Ash vs Okoume
Different Body Wood
Fretboard Wood
Figured Maple vs Rosewood
Different Fretboard Wood

Shared Features
Music Man Valentine Tremolo vs Luke 3 HH Maple Top

Neck Pickup
Music Man Custom Humbucker
Same Neck Pickup
Neck Wood
Figured Maple
Same Neck Wood
Headstock
4-2
Same Headstock
Nut Material
Compensated
Same Nut Material
Strings
6
Same playing style
Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Volume Knobs
1
Same volume control
Tone Knobs
1
Same tone control
Number of Frets
22
Same maximum octave
Nut Width
1.625'' (41.3mm)
Same string separation at the nut
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well
Bridge
Tremolo
Simple vibratos without too much maintenance
Scale Length
25.5'' (647.7mm)
Same string tension and fret separation
Pickups Power
Passive
Cleaner sound and no battery needed
Neck Joint
Bolt-On
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo vs Medium
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings

Common Strengths

  • Locking Tuners
  • High-Quality Nut
  • From a High-Quality-Standards Country
  • Top Pickup Brand
  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Neck-Through Build
  • Weight Relief
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

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Which One is Better Overall?

After going through our comparison algorithm, the results show that both instruments scored 75 out of 100, which makes them similar in terms of quality.

The Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top wins when it comes to sound, playability. On the other hand, the Music Man Valentine Tremolo has the upper hand when it comes to build quality, value for the money.

If you got small hands, you'll probably feel that the Music Man Valentine Tremolo is easier to play.

Which One is Better for Beginners?

Both meet 6 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players. If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, you can't go wrong with either of them.

New Player Friendliness

Music Man Valentine Tremolo
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Locking tuners
  • Tall frets
  • Narrow nut
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Short scale

New Player Friendliness

Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Locking tuners
  • Tall frets
  • Narrow nut
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Short scale

Nevertheless, when it comes to choosing an instrument, you should pick the one more compatible with your personal style. Still, below we'll try you to give you our results as objectively as it's possible to help you decide.

Music Man Valentine Tremolo Overview

  • From Music Man's 2018 Valentine series
  • James Valentine Signature
  • Made in United States
  • 6 strings
  • 25.5"'' scale
  • 10" Fretboard Radius
  • Ash body
  • Figured roasted maple neck neck
  • Figured roasted maple neck fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Music Man Custom Single Coil (Single Coil/Passive)
  • Neck pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 1 volume and 1 tone Dome knobs
  • 3-way Switch
  • Music Man Modern Tremolo bridge
  • Valentine Bolt-On neck
  • 22 Medium Jumbo Stainless Steel frets
  • Schaller M6-IND locking tuners
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Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top Overview

  • From Music Man's 2020 Steve Lukather series
  • Steve Lukather Signature
  • Made in United States
  • 6 strings
  • 25.5"'' scale
  • 12" Fretboard Radius
  • Figured Maple top
  • Okoume body
  • Select figured roasted maple neck neck
  • Rosewood fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker/Passive)
  • Neck pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 1 volume and 1 tone Dome knobs
  • 5-way Switch
  • Music Man floating vintage tremolo bridge
  • Steve Lukather Bolt-On neck
  • 22 Medium frets
  • Schaller M6-IND locking tuners
  • Weight around 7.55lbs (3.4kgs)
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Sound Quality Comparison

The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

Woods Used in Both

Figured Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
Figured Maple

This wood has beautiful patterns only found in specific types of maple.

Woods Used in the Music Man Valentine Tremolo

Ash wood pattern used for guitar building
Ash

Ash is a type of wood that Fender used almost exclusively in the 50s, and it's still used by many brands. It's a dense wood with a light color that works well for a transparent, natural finish because of its beautiful patterns. In terms of sound, it's known for emphasizing the mid and high frequencies, but with strong low end. Find out more about Ash.

Woods Used in the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top

Rosewood wood pattern used for guitar building
Rosewood
Okoume wood pattern used for guitar building
Okoume

Rosewood is an almost purple-looking wood that is used mainly for fretboards since it's heavy, rare, and expensive. It's sometimes used on acoustic guitar bodies to create stronger warm tones. Find out more about Rosewood.

Okoume is an affordable wood and one of the first to replace Mahogany when the prohibitions started. It's generally softer than Mahogany and the tone has warmer lows.

Winner: Tie.

Pickup Configuration

The Music Man Valentine Tremolo has an SH configuration while the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top has HH pickups.

SH is a more versatile version of the classic telecaster (SS) configuration. The bridge pickup usually produces a bright and twangy tone, while the neck Humbucker gives you the warmer tone you'll need for more Jazzy/Bluish solos and chords.

On the other hand, Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

Pickups Quality

Both come with very good pickups from at least one of the specialized brands in the market. With pickups like these, you probably won't need an upgrade anytime soon.

Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.

Winner: Tie.

Versatility Comparison

Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

Switch Options

The Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top gives you 5 switch options while the Music Man Valentine Tremolo gives you 3. This means that the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top gives you more options to find the right pickup combination for the type of sound you want to achieve

Both give you different pickup mod options.

The Music Man Valentine Tremolo offers Coil Split.

Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.

On the other hand, the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top comes with the following: Boost.

A Boost will give your pickups more output, similar to an active pickup. It's great if you like to use a lot of output for heavy genres, but also like to use a cleaner tone often.

Music Man Valentine Tremolo pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Music Man Valentine Tremolo's switch options
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top pickups switch selector and push knobs diagram
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's switch options

When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

Winner: Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top.

Final Sound Quality Scores

Music Man Valentine Tremolo
Pickups 90
Sustain 65
Versatility 74
Tuning Stability 75
Sound 76
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top
Pickups 90
Sustain 65
Versatility 77
Tuning Stability 75
Sound 77

Build Quality Comparison

When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Music Man Valentine Tremolo compares to the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top.

Country of Origin

The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. Both in this comparison where made in United States.

The United States is considered one of the best electric guitar manufacturers in the world. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. Nowadays, guitars made in other countries can beat some of the ones made in the US, but most of the time, this country offers the best you can get. Of course, that comes at a price.

Winner: Tie

Nut Material

If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

In this case, both have Compensated nuts. Each hole where the string sits at the nut is cut at a different distance from the bridge, which compensates for the different amount of tension that each string is subject to. This fixes most intonation issues across the fretboard, so it gives great tuning stability.

Fret Material

Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

In this comparison, the Music Man Valentine Tremolo is the only one that has stainless steel frets. These frets will basically last for the entire life of the guitar. They will never need polishing nor replacement. And not only that, but some people also notice that bending and vibratos are much easier to perform when they upgrade to stainless steel.

Winner: Music Man Valentine Tremolo.

Bridge

The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

Both come with a similar bridge: Tremolo. Tremolo bridges give you more versatility than fixed bridges. They let you perform the intense vibrato effects that would be impossible with a fixed bridge. However, since the bridge floats and there's less contact with the body, the strings lose sustain slightly faster. They can also be a bit harder to restring and set up correctly than fixed bridges.

Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

Winner: Tie.

Tuners

They both have locking tuners. They'll help to keep your guitar in tune because they allow you to tune it without wrapping the strings around the posts. This avoids variations in the tuning due to the strings changing position at the post after a bend. They come at the disadvantage of being slightly heavier than regular tuners. Also, it makes it a lot easier to restring.

Winner: Tie.

Neck Joint

Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

Both have a Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

Winner: Tie.

Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

Strengths & Weaknesses
Music Man Valentine Tremolo
  • Stainless Steel Frets
  • Locking Tuners
  • Made in United States
  • Expensive Wood
  • Compensated Nut
  • Top Brand Pickups
  • Coil Split Pickups
  • Tremolo
  • No Neck-Through Build
  • No Weight Relief
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock
Strengths & Weaknesses
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top
  • Locking Tuners
  • Made in United States
  • Expensive Wood
  • Compensated Nut
  • Top Brand Pickups
  • Boost Pickups
  • Tremolo
  • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
  • No Neck-Through Build
  • No Weight Relief
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock

Final Build Quality Scores

Music Man Valentine Tremolo
Quality of materials 81
Features 70
Quality Control 95
Build Quality 82
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top
Quality of materials 60
Features 70
Quality Control 100
Build Quality 77

Playability Comparison

Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

Nut Width

Music Man Valentine Tremolo Nut Width
Both Guitars Have The Same Nut Width

The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, both have a nut width of 41.3mm (1.625'').

This is considered a narrow width for a 6-string guitar. This means that this guitar will have a narrower string separation at the nut, which will affect your fretting hand.

If you are a player with big hands, you might find it difficult to play chords without muting strings. However, this is good for players who have smaller hands, as it will allow them to reach each string more easily at the nut.

Scale Length

Music Man Valentine Tremolo and Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's Scale Length
Both have the same scale length

The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

In this case, both have a scale length of 25.5".

This is the scale used in most Stratocasters. It's slightly longer than the typical 24.75'' size found in Les Pauls, and it's one of the main reasons why Stratocasters have such a bright sound in general. A longer scale also means that the strings will have higher tension. This will help you get lower action without suffering fret buzz, which will also be helpful when playing in lower tunings without having to increase your string gauge.

However, this also means that there will be more separation between frets, which can make it more difficult to play. Also, bending the strings will require more strengths due to the increased tension, but remember that a tremolo guitar will offset this difficulty.

Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

Neck Profile

Music Man Valentine Tremolo Neck Profile
Music Man Valentine Tremolo's neck profile
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top Neck Profile
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's neck profile

No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

In this case, both have different neck shapes:

The Music Man Valentine Tremolo has a C type of neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

The Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top, on the other hand, has a V neck. This neck shape was more common during Fender's early years. Some people like it because they use their thumb over the edge of the fretboard to press the lower strings. It's rather thicker than most modern necks, so it's not usually used for playing fast solos.

Fretboard Radius

Music Man Valentine Tremolo Fingerboard Radius
Music Man Valentine Tremolo's Fingerboard radius
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top Fingerboard Radius
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's Fingerboard radius

Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

In this case, the Music Man Valentine Tremolo's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top.

Hand Size Comfortability

Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements.

And after taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top favors large hands more than the Music Man Valentine Tremolo. But it's still more comfortable for people with small hands, as you can see in the score meter below.

Music Man Valentine Tremolo:
Big Hands
Small Hands
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top:
Big Hands
Small Hands

Fret Size

Music Man Valentine Tremolo Frets Size
Music Man Valentine Tremolo's Frets Size
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top Frets Size
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's Frets Size

The Music Man Valentine Tremolo has Medium Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top's Medium frets.

Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

Final Playability Scores

Music Man Valentine Tremolo
Bending & Vibrato Ease 65
Chord Playability 75
Solo Playability 65
Playability 68
Music Man Luke 3 HH Maple Top
Bending & Vibrato Ease 70
Chord Playability 80
Solo Playability 60
Playability 70

Specs Side-by-Side

Music Man Valentine Tremolo vs Luke 3 HH Maple Top
General Music Man Valentine Tremolo Luke 3 HH Maple Top
Brand: Music Man Music Man
Year: 2018 2020
Configuration: SH HH
Strings: 6 6
Made in: United States United States
Series: Valentine Steve Lukather
Colors: Brown, Pink, Pink Burst Green, Red Burst
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Ash Okoume
Bridge: Music Man Modern Tremolo Music Man floating vintage tremolo
Neck
Neck Joint: Bolt-On Bolt-On
Tuners: Schaller M6-IND locking Schaller M6-IND locking
Fretboard: Figured roasted maple neck Rosewood
Neck Material: Figured roasted maple neck Select figured roasted maple neck
Decoration: 1/4 Black Face Dots Atlante Dot Inlays
Scale Size: 25.5" 25.5"
Shape: Valentine Steve Lukather
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Stainless Steel 22 Medium Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 10" 12"
Nut: Compensated Compensated
Nut Width: 41.3mm (1.625'') 41.3mm (1.625'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickup: Music Man Custom Single Coil (Single Coil / Passive) Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker / Passive)
Middle Pickup:
Neck Pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker / Passive) Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker / Passive)
Switch: 3 Way 5 Way
Knobs: Dome Dome
Pickup Mods: Coil Split Boost
Volume Controls: 1 1
Tone Controls: 1 1