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Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray vs Yamaha PAC1611MS

Reasons to Get
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray over Yamaha PAC1611MS

Fret Material
Stainless Steel vs Nickel Silver
Best fret material that will last forever
Release Year
2020 vs 2014
From a more recent year
Pickups
H vs HH
Hum-free with more right hand freedom and sustain
Locking Tuners
Yes vs None
Easier to change strings
Nut Width
1.625'' (41.3mm) vs 1.594'' (40.5mm)
Less likely to mute strings by accident and more space for fingerstyle
Fretboard Radius
10'' (254mm) vs 7.25'' (184.2mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend

Reasons to Get
Yamaha PAC1611MS over Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray

Switch Positions
3 vs 0
More tone options
Volume Knobs
1 vs 0
More volume control
Tone Knobs
1 vs 0
More tone control
Pickups
HH vs H
High output without hum
Nut Width
1.594'' (40.5mm) vs 1.625'' (41.3mm)
Favors small hands, easier bar chords and other shapes
Fretboard Radius
7.25'' (184.2mm) vs 10'' (254mm)
More curved fretboard helpful to play chords without muting strings
Value Score
66 vs 63
Better price/quality relationship

Other Key Differences
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray vs Yamaha PAC1611MS

Bridge Pickup
Music Man Custom Humbucker vs Seymour Duncan STHR-1b
Different Bridge Pickup
Body Wood
Okoume vs Ash
Different Body Wood
Fretboard Wood
Rosewood vs Maple
Different Fretboard Wood
Headstock
4-2 vs 6
Different Headstock
Nut Material
Compensated vs Bone
Different Nut Material

Shared Features
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray vs Yamaha PAC1611MS

Neck Wood
Maple
Same Neck Wood
Strings
6
Same playing style
Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Number of Frets
22
Same maximum octave
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well
Bridge
Fixed
Good sustain and needs no set-up
Scale Length
25.5'' (647.7mm)
Same string tension and fret separation
Pickups Power
Passive
Cleaner sound and no battery needed
Neck Profile Type
C
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Neck Joint
Bolt-On
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings

Common Strengths

  • High-Quality Nut
  • From a High-Quality-Standards Country
  • Top Pickup Brand
  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Neck-Through Build
  • Pickup Alter Switch/Knob
  • Weight Relief
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

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Price History Comparison

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Which One is Better Overall?

After going through our comparison algorithm, the results show that the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray is probably the better product overall with its final score of 73 compared to the Yamaha PAC1611MS's 71 score, although not by a lot.

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray wins when it comes to build quality. On the other hand, the Yamaha PAC1611MS has the upper hand when it comes to sound, playability, value for the money.

If you got small hands, you'll probably feel more comfortable playing the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray.

Which One is Better for Beginners?

If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray is the better choice.

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray meets 6 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Yamaha PAC1611MS meets only 5. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.

New Player Friendliness

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Locking tuners
  • Tall frets
  • Narrow nut
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Short scale

New Player Friendliness

Yamaha PAC1611MS
  • Comfortable shape
  • Easy-to-use bridge
  • Tall frets
  • Narrow nut
  • Comfortable neck
  • Comfortable fretboard
  • Short scale
  • Locking tuners

Nevertheless, when it comes to choosing an instrument, you should pick the one more compatible with your personal style. Still, below we'll try you to give you our results as objectively as it's possible to help you decide.

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Overview

  • From Music Man's 2020 Stephen Egerton series
  • Stephen Egerton Signature
  • Made in United States
  • 6 strings
  • 25.5"'' scale
  • 10" Fretboard Radius
  • Okoume body
  • Maple neck
  • Rosewood fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 0 volume and 0 tone Dome knobs
  • Music Man Modern hardtail with crescent cover vintage bent steel saddles bridge
  • Stephen Egerton Bolt-On neck
  • 22 Medium Jumbo Stainless Steel frets
  • Schaller M6-IND locking tuners
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Yamaha PAC1611MS Overview

  • From Yamaha's 2014 Signature series
  • Mike Stern Signature
  • Made in Japan
  • 6 strings
  • 25.5"'' scale
  • 7.25" Fretboard Radius
  • Light Ash body
  • Maple neck
  • One-Piece Maple fretboard
  • Bridge pickup: Seymour Duncan STHR-1b (Humbucker/Passive)
  • Neck pickup: Seymour Duncan '59 SH-1N (Humbucker/Passive)
  • 1 volume and 1 tone Dome knobs
  • 3-way Switch
  • 6-Saddle Hardtail bridge
  • PAC1611MS Bolt-On neck
  • 22 Medium Jumbo frets
  • Gotoh SD91-05M-L tuners
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Sound Quality Comparison

The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

Woods Used in Both

Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
Maple

Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

Woods Used in the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray

Rosewood wood pattern used for guitar building
Rosewood
Okoume wood pattern used for guitar building
Okoume

Rosewood is an almost purple-looking wood that is used mainly for fretboards since it's heavy, rare, and expensive. It's sometimes used on acoustic guitar bodies to create stronger warm tones. Find out more about Rosewood.

Okoume is an affordable wood and one of the first to replace Mahogany when the prohibitions started. It's generally softer than Mahogany and the tone has warmer lows.

Woods Used in the Yamaha PAC1611MS

Ash wood pattern used for guitar building
Ash

Ash is a type of wood that Fender used almost exclusively in the 50s, and it's still used by many brands. It's a dense wood with a light color that works well for a transparent, natural finish because of its beautiful patterns. In terms of sound, it's known for emphasizing the mid and high frequencies, but with strong low end. Find out more about Ash.

Winner: Tie.

Pickup Configuration

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray has an H configuration while the Yamaha PAC1611MS has HH pickups.

A single H pickup gives you the advantage of having a little longer sustain (all other things being equal) because there will be less magnetic fields from other pickups affecting the strings' vibration. However, they also give you the least versatility because you won't have other pickups at different distances from the bridge to create different tones. A single humbucking pickup is used for noiseless high output, which is used mainly for Hard Rock genres.

On the other hand, Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

Pickups Quality

Both come with very good pickups from at least one of the specialized brands in the market. With pickups like these, you probably won't need an upgrade anytime soon.

We found the same or similar pickups to the Yamaha PAC1611MS's online:

Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.

Winner: Tie.

Versatility Comparison

Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

Switch Options

The Yamaha PAC1611MS gives you 3 switch options while the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray gives you 0. This means that the Yamaha PAC1611MS gives you more options to find the right pickup combination for the type of sound you want to achieve

Neither of them come with some kind of coil split or pickup mod option. This makes both lacking in terms of versatility.

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray doesn't come with pickup switching options.

Yamaha PAC1611MS pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Yamaha PAC1611MS's switch options

When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

Winner: Yamaha PAC1611MS.

Final Sound Quality Scores

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray
Pickups 90
Sustain 70
Versatility 40
Tuning Stability 80
Sound 70
Yamaha PAC1611MS
Pickups 90
Sustain 75
Versatility 54
Tuning Stability 70
Sound 72

Build Quality Comparison

When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray compares to the Yamaha PAC1611MS.

Country of Origin

The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray is built in United States while the Yamaha PAC1611MS is made in Japan.

The United States is considered one of the best electric guitar manufacturers in the world. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. Nowadays, guitars made in other countries can beat some of the ones made in the US, but most of the time, this country offers the best you can get. Of course, that comes at a price.

Japan has a long history of high-quality guitar building. Little has changed in terms of their manufacturing and quality control over the years. Many guitars made in this country can be compared—and even beat—others made in the US.

Winner: Tie

Nut Material

If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray has a Compensated nut. Each hole where the string sits at the nut is cut at a different distance from the bridge, which compensates for the different amount of tension that each string is subject to. This fixes most intonation issues across the fretboard, so it gives great tuning stability.

On the other hand, the Yamaha PAC1611MS comes with a Bone nut. It's a type of nut found in high-quality instruments. They sound similar to Ivory since they give a lot of sustain and a bright sound (at least when striking open strings). The only problem they can run into is that you may get a bone piece that simply doesn't sound as well as others because that's just how natural materials are.

Winner: Tie.

Fret Material

Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

In this comparison, the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray is the only one that has stainless steel frets. These frets will basically last for the entire life of the guitar. They will never need polishing nor replacement. And not only that, but some people also notice that bending and vibratos are much easier to perform when they upgrade to stainless steel.

Winner: Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray.

Bridge

The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

Both come with a similar bridge: Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.

Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

Winner: Tie.

Tuners

The Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray has the best tuners of the two because they are locking tuners. They'll help to keep your guitar in tune because they allow you to tune it without wrapping the strings around the posts. This avoids variations in the tuning due to the strings changing position at the post after a bend. They come at the disadvantage of being slightly heavier than regular tuners. Also, it makes it a lot easier to restring.

Winner: Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray.

Neck Joint

Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

Both have a Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

Winner: Tie.

Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

Strengths & Weaknesses
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray
  • Stainless Steel Frets
  • Locking Tuners
  • Made in United States
  • Expensive Wood
  • Compensated Nut
  • Top Brand Pickups
  • No Neck-Through Build
  • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
  • No Weight Relief
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Tremolo
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock
Strengths & Weaknesses
Yamaha PAC1611MS
  • Made in Japan
  • Expensive Wood
  • Bone Nut
  • Top Brand Pickups
  • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
  • No Locking Tuners
  • No Neck-Through Build
  • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
  • No Weight Relief
  • No Luminescent Inlay
  • No Tremolo
  • No Compound Radius Fretboard
  • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • No Strap Lock

Final Build Quality Scores

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray
Quality of materials 81
Features 60
Quality Control 95
Build Quality 79
Yamaha PAC1611MS
Quality of materials 66
Features 50
Quality Control 90
Build Quality 69

Playability Comparison

Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

Nut Width

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Nut Width
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Nut Width
Yamaha PAC1611MS Nut Width
Yamaha PAC1611MS Nut Width

The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray has the wider nut with 41.3mm (1.625'') vs 40.5mm (1.594''). This is a 0.8mm (0.031'') difference

This means that it will be more difficult to do bar chords on the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray, especially closer to the nut. However, it's also easier to play without muting strings accidently. This favors people with big hands.

Scale Length

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray and Yamaha PAC1611MS's Scale Length
Both have the same scale length

The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

In this case, both have a scale length of 25.5".

This is the scale used in most Stratocasters. It's slightly longer than the typical 24.75'' size found in Les Pauls, and it's one of the main reasons why Stratocasters have such a bright sound in general. A longer scale also means that the strings will have higher tension. This will help you get lower action without suffering fret buzz, which will also be helpful when playing in lower tunings without having to increase your string gauge.

However, this also means that there will be more separation between frets, which can make it more difficult to play. Also, bending the strings will require more strengths due to the increased tension, but remember that a tremolo guitar will offset this difficulty.

Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

Neck Profile

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Neck Profile
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray's neck profile
Yamaha PAC1611MS Neck Profile
Yamaha PAC1611MS's neck profile

No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

Both the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray and the Yamaha PAC1611MS have a C-shaped neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

Fretboard Radius

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Fingerboard Radius
Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray's Fingerboard radius
Yamaha PAC1611MS Fingerboard Radius
Yamaha PAC1611MS's Fingerboard radius

Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

In this case, the Yamaha PAC1611MS's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray.

Hand Size Comfortability

Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements.

And after taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that the Yamaha PAC1611MS favors large hands more than the Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray.

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray:
Big Hands
Small Hands
Yamaha PAC1611MS:
Big Hands
Small Hands

Fret Size

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray and Yamaha PAC1611MS Frets Size
Both have a similar Medium Jumbo fret size

Both have a Medium Jumbo fret size. These are slightly shorter than full Jumbo frets, so you'll still feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings. However, they interfere less with your fretting hand than medium-size frets. This is a good size if you like easy-to-press frets, but would still like to feel a bit of the fretboard when playing.

Final Playability Scores

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray
Bending & Vibrato Ease 70
Chord Playability 75
Solo Playability 65
Playability 70
Yamaha PAC1611MS
Bending & Vibrato Ease 65
Chord Playability 90
Solo Playability 60
Playability 72

Specs Side-by-Side

Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray vs Yamaha PAC1611MS
General Music Man Stephen Egerton Stingray Yamaha PAC1611MS
Brand: Music Man Yamaha
Year: 2020 2014
Configuration: H HH
Strings: 6 6
Made in: United States Japan
Series: Stephen Egerton Signature
Colors: Black Natural
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Okoume Light Ash
Bridge: Music Man Modern hardtail with crescent cover vintage bent steel saddles 6-Saddle Hardtail
Neck
Neck Joint: Bolt-On Bolt-On
Tuners: Schaller M6-IND locking Gotoh SD91-05M-L
Fretboard: Rosewood One-Piece Maple
Neck Material: Maple Maple
Decoration: 1/4 Dot Inlay Dots
Scale Size: 25.5" 25.5"
Shape: Stephen Egerton PAC1611MS
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Stainless Steel 22 Medium Jumbo Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 10" 7.25"
Nut: Compensated Bone
Nut Width: 41.3mm (1.625'') 40.5mm (1.594'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickup: Music Man Custom Humbucker (Humbucker / Passive) Seymour Duncan STHR-1b (Humbucker / Passive)
Middle Pickup:
Neck Pickup: Seymour Duncan '59 SH-1N (Humbucker / Passive)
Switch: 0 Way 3 Way
Knobs: Dome Dome
Pickup Mods: None None
Volume Controls: 0 1
Tone Controls: 0 1