Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V vs Schecter C-8 Deluxe
Reasons to Get
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V over Schecter C-8 Deluxe
Reasons to Get
Schecter C-8 Deluxe over Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V
Other Key Differences
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V vs Schecter C-8 Deluxe
Shared Features
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V vs Schecter C-8 Deluxe
Common Strengths
- High-Quality Nut
- Expensive Wood
Common Weaknesses
- Pickup Alter Switch/Knob
- Weight Relief
- Locking Tuners
- Stays in Tune (Evertune)
- High-Quality Frets
- Compound Radius Fretboard
- Luminescent Sidedots
- Strap Lock
- 21:1 Tuner Ratio
- Active/Passive Preamp
Table of Contents
Price History Comparison
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Which One is Better Overall?
After going through our comparison algorithm, the results show that the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V is probably the better product overall with its final score of 72 compared to the Schecter C-8 Deluxe's 64 score, although not by a lot.
The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V wins when it comes to sound, playability, build quality. On the other hand, the Schecter C-8 Deluxe has the upper hand when it comes to value for the money.
If you got small hands, you'll probably feel more comfortable playing the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V.
Which One is Better for Beginners?
If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, the Schecter C-8 Deluxe is the better choice.
The Schecter C-8 Deluxe meets 4 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V meets only 3. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.
New Player Friendliness
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V- Comfortable shape
- Easy-to-use bridge
- Comfortable neck
- Comfortable fretboard
- Tall frets
- Narrow nut
- Short scale
- Locking tuners
New Player Friendliness
Schecter C-8 Deluxe- Comfortable shape
- Easy-to-use bridge
- Tall frets
- Comfortable neck
- Comfortable fretboard
- Narrow nut
- Short scale
- Locking tuners
Nevertheless, when it comes to choosing an instrument, you should pick the one more compatible with your personal style. Still, below we'll try you to give you our results as objectively as it's possible to help you decide.
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V Overview
- From Gibson Custom's 2022 Artist series
- Johnny Winter Signature
- Made in United States
- 6 strings
- 24.75"'' scale
- 12" Fretboard Radius
- Layered Mahogany body
- Mahogany neck
- Indian Rosewood fretboard
- Bridge pickup: Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker/Passive)
- Neck pickup: Firebird Alnico V (Humbucker/Passive)
- 2 volume and 2 tone Bell knobs
- 3-way Switch
- Chrome Plated Aluminum Stop Bar bridge
- Medium C Neck-Through neck
- 22 Vintage frets
- Deluxe Banjo Tuners tuners
- Compare Specs >
Schecter C-8 Deluxe Overview
- From Schecter's 2015 C-6 Plus/Deluxe series
- Made in Indonesia
- 8 strings
- 28"'' scale
- 16" Fretboard Radius
- Basswood body
- Maple neck
- Rosewood fretboard
- Bridge pickup: Schecter Diamond Plus (Humbucker/Passive)
- Neck pickup: Schecter Diamond Plus (Humbucker/Passive)
- 1 volume and 1 tone Dome knobs
- 3-way Switch
- Tune-O-Matic w/ String Thru Body bridge
- Thin C Bolt-On neck
- 24 XL Jumbo frets
- Schecter tuners
- Compare Specs >
Sound Quality Comparison
The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.
Woods Used in Both
Rosewood is an almost purple-looking wood that is used mainly for fretboards since it's heavy, rare, and expensive. It's sometimes used on acoustic guitar bodies to create stronger warm tones. Find out more about Rosewood.
Woods Used in the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V
Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.
Woods Used in the Schecter C-8 Deluxe
Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.
Basswood is a lightweight type of wood that isn't as expensive as other popular choices for guitar building. It gives more power to the mid-range frequencies. Its color can vary from pale white to light brown. Find out more about Basswood.
Winner: Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V.
Pickup Configuration
Both pickup configurations are HH. Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.
Pickups Quality
The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V has pickups from a more specialized brand than the Schecter C-8 Deluxe. Its pickups should simply give you a better, fuller sound, although it all depends on what type of music you're going to play. We recommend these pickups for Hard Rock and similar genres.
Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.
Winner: Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V.
Versatility Comparison
Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.
Switch Options
Both are equal when it comes to the pickup switching option.
Neither of them come with some kind of coil split or pickup mod option. This makes both lacking in terms of versatility.
They both share the following switching options:
When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.
Winner: Schecter C-8 Deluxe.
Final Sound Quality Scores
Build Quality Comparison
When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V compares to the Schecter C-8 Deluxe.
Country of Origin
The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V is built in United States while the Schecter C-8 Deluxe is made in Indonesia.
The United States is considered one of the best electric guitar manufacturers in the world. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. Nowadays, guitars made in other countries can beat some of the ones made in the US, but most of the time, this country offers the best you can get. Of course, that comes at a price.
Indonesia is becoming the most popular country for guitar building because they can make good instruments for a low price. Some people think that they're 'the new China' when it comes to build quality. But the truth is that Indonesian guitars are more consistent, although Chinese quality has improved a lot in the last few years.
Winner: Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V
Nut Material
If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.
The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V has a Corian nut. It used to be the go-to nut for Gibson, but it's slowly being replaced by Graph Tech (Tusq). It's a synthetic material made to be similar to Bone, but it doesn't have the same self-lubricating properties, and it's less resistant.
On the other hand, the Schecter C-8 Deluxe comes with a Graphite nut. It's a self-lubricating material that will allow the strings to slide over the nut without a lot of friction. It's a good type of nut if you want to have better tuning stability than with plastic, although it's not as resistant as Bone or Tusq.
Winner: Tie.
Fret Material
Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.
Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.
Winner: Tie.
Bridge
The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.
Both come with a similar bridge: Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.
Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.
Winner: Tie.
Tuners
Both come with regular tuners. The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V's are Deluxe Banjo Tuners while the Schecter C-8 Deluxe's are Schecter
Winner: Tie.
Neck Joint
Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.
The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V has a Neck-Through neck joint. This neck is a lot more resistant and lets builders give the neck joint a more comfortable shape for soloing at the upper frets. The disadvantage is that they're more expensive and that if you damage your neck, you can't simply replace it like with bolt-on necks.
On the other hand, the Schecter C-8 Deluxe comes with Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.
Winner: Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V.
Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V
- Made in United States
- Expensive Wood
- Top Brand Pickups
- Neck-Through Build
- Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
- No Locking Tuners
- No High-Quality Nut
- No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
- No Weight Relief
- No Luminescent Inlay
- No Tremolo
- No Compound Radius Fretboard
- No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
- No Strap Lock
Schecter C-8 Deluxe
- Expensive Wood
- Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
- No Locking Tuners
- Made in Indonesia
- No High-Quality Nut
- No Top Brand Pickups
- No Neck-Through Build
- No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
- No Weight Relief
- No Luminescent Inlay
- No Tremolo
- No Compound Radius Fretboard
- No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
- No Strap Lock
Final Build Quality Scores
Playability Comparison
Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.
Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.
Nut Width
The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, the Schecter C-8 Deluxe has the wider nut with 54mm (2.126'') vs 42.9mm (1.688''). This is a 11.1mm (0.438'') difference
This means that it will be more difficult to do bar chords on the Schecter C-8 Deluxe, especially closer to the nut. However, it's also easier to play without muting strings accidently. This favors people with big hands.
Scale Length
The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.
The Schecter C-8 Deluxe has the longest scale: 28". The Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V is only 24.75" long. This is a 3.25'' (82.6mm) scale length difference.
This longer scale means that the strings need more tension to get in tune. This is good if you want to avoid fret buzz, which can happen when the strings are too loose and touch the frets while vibrating. This is especially important when playing in lower tunings. This will also let you reduce the gap between fretboard and strings (low action) to make them easier to press down. However, this higher tension will also make it harder to perform bends and vibratos as the strings will feel stiffer.
This also means that the frets have a longer separation between each other, so this will make it harder for people with smaller hands when playing some chord positions.
Another characteristic of a longer scale is that it makes the guitar sound 'snappier' or brighter. This is due to the extra separation between harmonics and overtones produced by the tension. This influences tone more than any other factor (except the pickups).
Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.
Neck Profile
No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.
Both the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V and the Schecter C-8 Deluxe have a C-shaped neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.
Fretboard Radius
Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.
In this case, the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Schecter C-8 Deluxe's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Schecter C-8 Deluxe.
Still, both tend to favor soloing over chords, so if you're looking for a guitar for playing rhythm, you might want something else with a radius closer to a Stratocaster's 9.5''.
Hand Size Comfortability
Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements.
And after taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that the Schecter C-8 Deluxe favors large hands more than the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V.
Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V:
Schecter C-8 Deluxe:
Fret Size
The Schecter C-8 Deluxe has XL Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Gibson Custom Johnny Winter 1964 Firebird V's Vintage frets.
Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.
