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Score
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Epiphone Les Paul Muse vs Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom Specs Comparison
Epiphone Les Paul Muse Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
General
Brand: Epiphone Ibanez
Year: 2020 2017
Configuration: HH HSH
Strings: 6 6
Made in: China Japan
Series: Epiphone Inspired by Gibson RG
Colors: White, Black, Blue, Green, Brown, Red, Purple Black, Blue, Brown
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Mahogany (chambered, thin, belly scarf) African Mahogany
Bridge: LockTone Tune-O-Matic Edge-Zero tremolo w/ZPS3
Neck
Neck Joint: Set Bolt-On
Tuners: Grover Rotomatic 18:1 ratio Gotoh machine heads
Fretboard: Indian Laurel Bound Macassar Ebony
Neck Material: Mahogany Maple/Wenge
Decoration: Trapezoid Tree of Life
Scale Size: 24.75" 25.5"
Shape: Custom C Super Wizard
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Nickel Silver 24 Jumbo Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 12" 17"
Nut: NuBone Locking
Nut Width: 43mm (1.693'') 43mm (1.693'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickups: Alnico Classic PRO (Humbucker / Passive) DiMarzio The Tone Zone (Humbucker / Passive)
Middle Pickup: DiMarzio True Velvet (Single Coil / Passive)
Neck Pickup: Alnico Classic PRO (Humbucker / Passive) DiMarzio Air Norton (Humbucker / Passive)
Switch: 3 Way 5 Way
Knobs: Speed Dome
Pickup Mods: Coil Split, Phase Out None
Volume Controls: 2 1
Tone Controls: 2 1
Hardware
Strap Lock: No Yes
Hardware Color: Chrome Black
Show Diagrams Comparison
Epiphone Les Paul Muse pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Epiphone Les Paul Muse's switch options
Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom pickups switch selector and push knobs diagram
Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's switch options

Reasons to Get
Epiphone Les Paul Muse over Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom

Release Year
2020 vs 2017
From a more recent year
Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo vs Jumbo
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Custom C vs Super Wizard
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Pickup Mods
Multiple vs None
Volume Knobs
2 vs 1
More volume control
Tone Knobs
2 vs 1
More tone control
Pickups
HH vs HSH
High output without hum
Bridge
Fixed vs Edge Zero
Good sustain and needs no set-up
Scale Length
24.75'' (628.7mm) vs 25.5'' (647.7mm)
Easier bending, shorter fret separation and warmer natural tone
Fretboard Radius
12'' (304.8mm) vs 17'' (431.8mm)
Easier to play chords without muting strings
Value Score
72 vs 61
Better price/quality relationship

Reasons to Get
Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom over Epiphone Les Paul Muse

Country of Manufacturing
Japan vs China
Built with higher quality standards
Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Type of Frets
Jumbo vs Medium Jumbo
You won't feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Super Wizard vs Custom C
Thinnest neck you can get for shredding
Pickups Brand
DiMarzio vs None
Pickups from a renown brand
Neck Joint
Bolt-On vs Set
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Switch Positions
5 vs 3
More tone options
Pickups
HSH vs HH
High output, round sound with a single-coil for cleans
Number of Frets
24 vs 22
Allows to reach higher notes
Strap Lock
Yes vs None
Protects your guitar from dropping by locking the strap
Bridge
Edge Zero vs Fixed
Intense vibratos like Floyd Rose but easier to setup
Scale Length
25.5'' (647.7mm) vs 24.75'' (628.7mm)
Lower action and brighter natural tone
Fretboard Radius
17'' (431.8mm) vs 12'' (304.8mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend

Other Key Differences
Epiphone Les Paul Muse vs Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom

Bridge Pickup
Alnico Classic PRO vs DiMarzio The Tone Zone
Different Bridge Pickup
Neck Pickup
Alnico Classic PRO vs DiMarzio Air Norton
Different Neck Pickup
Neck Wood
Mahogany vs Maple
Different Neck Wood
Fretboard Wood
Laurel vs Ebony
Different Fretboard Wood
Headstock
3-3 vs 6
Different Headstock
Nut Material
NuBone vs Locking
Different Nut Material

Shared Features
Epiphone Les Paul Muse vs Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom

Body Wood
Mahogany
Same Body Wood
Strings
6
Same playing style
Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Nut Width
1.693'' (43mm)
Same string separation at the nut
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well
Pickups Power
Passive
Cleaner sound and no battery needed
Decorative Top
Maple Cap vs AAA Flamed Maple (4mm)
Finished with beautiful natural wood patterns

Common Strengths

  • High-Quality Nut
  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Weight Relief
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • High-Quality Frets
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

Price History Comparison

Epiphone Les Paul Muse Prices

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      Hand Size Comfortability

      After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both favor small hands .

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse:
      Big Hands
      Small Hands
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom:
      Big Hands
      Small Hands

      Beginner Friendliness

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse meets 4 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom meets only 3. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.

      New Player Friendliness

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse
      • Comfortable shape
      • Easy-to-use bridge
      • Tall frets
      • Comfortable neck
      • Comfortable fretboard
      • Narrow nut
      • Short scale
      • Locking tuners

      New Player Friendliness

      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
      • Comfortable shape
      • Tall frets
      • Comfortable neck
      • Comfortable fretboard
      • Narrow nut
      • Short scale
      • Locking tuners
      • Easy-to-use bridge

      Sound Quality Comparison

      The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

      Woods Used in Both

      Mahogany wood pattern used for guitar building
      Mahogany

      Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.

      Woods Used in the Epiphone Les Paul Muse

      Laurel wood pattern used for guitar building
      Laurel

      There are many types of Laurel, but East Indian is the most common for guitar building. Its color can vary from dark to light brown with black lines. Many people find its tonality similar to Rosewood, which favors the warmer frequencies. Find out more about Laurel.

      Woods Used in the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom

      Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
      Maple
      Ebony wood pattern used for guitar building
      Ebony

      Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

      Ebony is a high-end wood, so it is not cheap. It's only used for fretboards because it's also very heavy. It does an excellent job as a durable material while looking elegant. Find out more about Ebony.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Pickup Configuration

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse has an HH configuration while the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom has HSH pickups.

      Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

      On the other hand, HSH is a versatile pickup configuration that will give you the high output, full tone, and quiet sound of humbucker pickups, but with the possibility of using a single coil for cleaner tones. The disadvantage is that the middle single-coil pickup will have a noticeable lower volume, so you might want to adjust the height of the pickups. Another problem is that if you set the middle pickup too high, it might interfere with your picking hand.

      Pickups Quality

      The Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom pickups from a more specialized brand than the Epiphone Les Paul Muse. Its pickups should give you a fuller, richer sound, although it all depends on what type of music you're going to play. We recommend these pickups for Hard Rock and similar genres.

      We found the same or similar pickups to the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's online:

      Both use Passive pickups. This is what's used for most music genres. They have a regular output and will serve you for both high-gain and clean tones. The alternative (Active pickups) offer a higher output that is mostly used for heavy music.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Versatility Comparison

      Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

      Switch Options

      The Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom gives you 5 switch options while the Epiphone Les Paul Muse gives you 3. This means that the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom gives you more options to find the right pickup combination for the type of sound you want to achieve

      Only the Epiphone Les Paul Muse comes with some kind of pickup modification: Coil Split, Phase Out.

      Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.

      When the Phase Out option is activated, the pickups will ''work against each other'', meaning that they will cancel out their shared frequencies. The result is a very thin sound, instead of a full, rich tone. This is an interesting sound for genres like reggae or funk and has also been used in classic Hard Rock.

      When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Final Sound Quality Scores

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse
      Pickups 60
      Sustain 75
      Versatility 68
      Tuning Stability 70
      Sound 68
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
      Pickups 85
      Sustain 80
      Versatility 75
      Tuning Stability 85
      Sound 81

      Build Quality Comparison

      When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Epiphone Les Paul Muse compares to the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Country of Origin

      The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Epiphone Les Paul Muse is built in China while the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom is made in Japan.

      China has a bad reputation when it comes to building quality. However, times have changed and now respectable brands use China's cheap labor to build good instruments for a lower price. Don't discount a guitar only because it was built in China, but also expect more quality from countries like Korea.

      Japan has a long history of high-quality guitar building. Little has changed in terms of their manufacturing and quality control over the years. Many guitars made in this country can be compared—and even beat—others made in the US.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom

      Nut Material

      If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse has a NuBone nut. It's made by the same company that makes TUSQ nuts. It's slightly softer but hard enough to give you a brighter sound when playing open strings. It's also self-lubricating, so it's good for tuning stability.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom comes with a Locking nut. Instead of a regular nut, this guitar has a locking system that will lock down the strings at the nut, preventing it from getting out of tune. It removes one of the disadvantages of tremolo bridges, tune stability.

      Winner: Tie.

      Fret Material

      Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

      Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.

      Winner: Tie.

      Bridge

      The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse's brige is a Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's is a Edge Zero. This is a different version of Ibanez's Edge bridges. It comes with locking stud bolts that lock down into the body and provide better stabilization, and with easier adjustment of the springs without having to remove the backplate thanks to a thumb-screw .

      Edge Zeros that come with ZPS3 Zero Point system come with two extra springs that help return the tremolo to the neutral position quicker, helping with tune stability. These bridges offer tons of versatility, but they also require more work than simpler tremolos to set up.

      Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Tuners

      Both come with regular tuners. The Epiphone Les Paul Muse's are Grover Rotomatic 18:1 ratio while the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's are Gotoh machine heads

      Winner: Tie.

      Neck Joint

      Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse has a Set neck joint. This neck is tightly glued to the body. They give you the least versatility because you can't swap them for a neck that fits your hand better if you want to, unlike bolt-on necks. Some people think this gives more resonance and sustain, but there's no real difference if the bolt-on joint is well built.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom comes with Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

      Winner: Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

      Strengths & Weaknesses
      Epiphone Les Paul Muse
      • Expensive Wood
      • NuBone Nut
      • Coil Split, Phase Out Pickups
      • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
      • No Locking Tuners
      • Made in China
      • No Top Brand Pickups
      • No Neck-Through Build
      • No Weight Relief
      • No Luminescent Inlay
      • No Tremolo
      • No Compound Radius Fretboard
      • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
      • No Strap Lock
      Strengths & Weaknesses
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
      • Made in Japan
      • Expensive Wood
      • Locking Nut
      • Top Brand Pickups
      • Tremolo
      • Strap Lock
      • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
      • No Locking Tuners
      • No Neck-Through Build
      • No Push Knob or Extra Switch Option
      • No Weight Relief
      • No Luminescent Inlay
      • No Compound Radius Fretboard
      • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
      • No Retainer Bar

      Final Build Quality Scores

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse
      Quality of materials 65
      Features 55
      Quality Control 60
      Build Quality 60
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
      Quality of materials 55
      Features 65
      Quality Control 100
      Build Quality 73

      Playability Comparison

      Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

      Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

      Nut Width

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse Nut Width
      Both Guitars Have The Same Nut Width

      The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, both have a nut width of 43mm (1.693'').

      This is within the most common range of nut widths for a 6-string guitar. It offers a good balance of string separation at the nut. It's the size that most guitarists prefer as it gives them just enough space to play open chords without muting the strings, but without spreading the strings too wide and making bar chords difficult to perform.

      Scale Length

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse's Scale Length
      Epiphone Les Paul Muse's Scale Length
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's Scale Length
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's Scale Length

      The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

      The Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom has the longest scale: 25.5". The Epiphone Les Paul Muse is only 24.75" long. This is a 0.75'' (19.1mm) scale length difference.

      This longer scale means that the strings need more tension to get in tune. This is good if you want to avoid fret buzz, which can happen when the strings are too loose and touch the frets while vibrating. This is especially important when playing in lower tunings. This will also let you reduce the gap between fretboard and strings (low action) to make them easier to press down. However, this higher tension will also make it harder to perform bends and vibratos as the strings will feel stiffer.

      This also means that the frets have a longer separation between each other, so this will make it harder for people with smaller hands when playing some chord positions.

      Another characteristic of a longer scale is that it makes the guitar sound 'snappier' or brighter. This is due to the extra separation between harmonics and overtones produced by the tension. This influences tone more than any other factor (except the pickups).

      Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

      Neck Profile

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse Neck Profile
      Epiphone Les Paul Muse's neck profile
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom Neck Profile
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's neck profile

      No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

      In this case, both have different neck shapes:

      The Epiphone Les Paul Muse has a C type of neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

      The Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom, on the other hand, has a Super Wizard neck. Ibanez is famous for this neck shape. They're similar to C-shaped necks, but they're even thinner. Some people like it because it gives them all the free room they need to play fast single notes (shredding). But some people prefer a thicker type of neck they can grab and rest their hands more comfortably.

      Fretboard Radius

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse Fingerboard Radius
      Epiphone Les Paul Muse's Fingerboard radius
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom Fingerboard Radius
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's Fingerboard radius

      Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

      In this case, the Epiphone Les Paul Muse's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom.

      Still, both tend to favor soloing over chords, so if you're looking for a guitar for playing rhythm, you might want something else with a radius closer to a Stratocaster's 9.5''.

      Fret Size

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse Frets Size
      Epiphone Les Paul Muse's Frets Size
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom Frets Size
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom's Frets Size

      The Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom has Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Epiphone Les Paul Muse's Medium Jumbo frets.

      Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

      Final Playability Scores

      Epiphone Les Paul Muse
      Bending & Vibrato Ease 85
      Chord Playability 65
      Solo Playability 70
      Playability 73
      Ibanez RG8570Z j.custom
      Bending & Vibrato Ease 80
      Chord Playability 50
      Solo Playability 90
      Playability 73