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Epiphone Les Paul Classic vs Ibanez RG5170G Prestige Specs Comparison
Epiphone Les Paul Classic Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
General
Brand: Epiphone Ibanez
Year: 2020 2020
Configuration: HH HSH
Strings: 6 6
Made in: China Japan
Series: Modern Collection RG
Colors: Black, Yellow Burst, Heritage Cherry Sunburst Black, Silver
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Mahogany Basswood
Bridge: LockTone Tune-O-Matic Lo-Pro Edge tremolo
Neck
Neck Joint: Set Bolt-On
Tuners: Grover Rotomatic with 18:1 ratio Gotoh machine heads
Fretboard: Indian Laurel Bound Macassar Ebony
Neck Material: Mahogany Maple/Wenge
Decoration: Trapezoid Off-set Mother of Pearl dot
Scale Size: 24.75" 25.5"
Shape: Slim Taper Super Wizard
Thickness: 1st Fret: 0.82'' (20.8mm) - 12th Fret: 0.92'' (23.4mm) 1st Fret: 0.67'' (17mm) - 12th Fret: 0.75'' (19.1mm)
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Nickel Silver 24 Jumbo Stainless Steel
Fretboard Radius: 12" 17"
Nut: Ivory Tusq Locking
Nut Width: 43mm (1.693'') 43mm (1.693'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickups: Alnico Classic PRO (Humbucker / Passive) Fishman Fluence Modern Ceramic (Humbucker / Active)
Middle Pickup: Fishman Fluence Single-Width (Single Coil / Active)
Neck Pickup: Alnico Classic PRO (Humbucker / Passive) Fishman Fluence Modern Alnico (Humbucker / Active)
Switch: 3 Way 5 Way
Knobs: Bell Bell
Pickup Mods: Coil Split, Phase Out Multi-Voicing
Volume Controls: 2 1
Tone Controls: 2 1
Hardware
Strap Lock: No No
Hardware Color: Chrome Gold
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Epiphone Les Paul Classic pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Epiphone Les Paul Classic's switch options
Ibanez RG5170G Prestige pickups switch selector and push knobs diagram
Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's switch options

Reasons to Get
Epiphone Les Paul Classic over Ibanez RG5170G Prestige

Decorative Top
Plain Maple Cap vs None
Finished with beautiful natural wood patterns
Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo vs Jumbo
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Slim Taper vs Super Wizard
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Pickup Mods
Multiple vs Multi-Voicing
Volume Knobs
2 vs 1
More volume control
Tone Knobs
2 vs 1
More tone control
Pickups
HH vs HSH
High output without hum
Neck Thickness at 1st Fret
0.82'' (20.8mm) vs 0.67'' (17mm)
More comfortable open chords for big hands
Neck Thickness at 12th Fret
0.92'' (23.4mm) vs 0.75'' (19.1mm)
More comfortable at higher frets for big hands
Bridge
Fixed vs Lo-Pro Edge
Good sustain and needs no set-up
Scale Length
24.75'' (628.7mm) vs 25.5'' (647.7mm)
Easier bending, shorter fret separation and warmer natural tone
Fretboard Radius
12'' (304.8mm) vs 17'' (431.8mm)
Easier to play chords without muting strings
Pickups Power
Passive vs Active
Cleaner sound and no battery needed
Value Score
73 vs 69
Better price/quality relationship

Reasons to Get
Ibanez RG5170G Prestige over Epiphone Les Paul Classic

Country of Manufacturing
Japan vs China
Built with higher quality standards
Fret Material
Stainless Steel vs Nickel Silver
Best fret material that will last forever
Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Type of Frets
Jumbo vs Medium Jumbo
You won't feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Super Wizard vs Slim Taper
Thinnest neck you can get for shredding
Pickups Brand
Fishman vs None
Pickups from a renown brand
Pickup Mods
Multi-Voicing vs Multiple
Changes the voice (tones or gain) of the pickups
Neck Joint
Bolt-On vs Set
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Switch Positions
5 vs 3
More tone options
Pickups
HSH vs HH
High output, round sound with a single-coil for cleans
Number of Frets
24 vs 22
Allows to reach higher notes
Neck Thickness at 1st Fret
0.67'' (17mm) vs 0.82'' (20.8mm)
More comfortable open chords for small hands
Neck Thickness at 12th Fret
0.75'' (19.1mm) vs 0.92'' (23.4mm)
More comfortable at higher frets for small hands
Luminescent Sidedots
Yes vs None
Assists you when playing in dark environments
Bridge
Lo-Pro Edge vs Fixed
Intense vibratos with more features than a Floyd Rose
Scale Length
25.5'' (647.7mm) vs 24.75'' (628.7mm)
Lower action and brighter natural tone
Fretboard Radius
17'' (431.8mm) vs 12'' (304.8mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend
Pickups Power
Active vs Passive
More output

Other Key Differences
Epiphone Les Paul Classic vs Ibanez RG5170G Prestige

Bridge Pickup
Alnico Classic PRO vs Fishman Fluence Modern Ceramic
Different Bridge Pickup
Neck Pickup
Alnico Classic PRO vs Fishman Fluence Modern Alnico
Different Neck Pickup
Body Wood
Mahogany vs Basswood
Different Body Wood
Neck Wood
Mahogany vs Maple
Different Neck Wood
Fretboard Wood
Laurel vs Ebony
Different Fretboard Wood
Headstock
3-3 vs 6
Different Headstock
Nut Material
Ivory Tusq vs Locking
Different Nut Material

Shared Features
Epiphone Les Paul Classic vs Ibanez RG5170G Prestige

Strings
6
Same playing style
Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Nut Width
1.693'' (43mm)
Same string separation at the nut
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well

Common Strengths

  • High-Quality Nut
  • High-Quality Frets
  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Weight Relief
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

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    Hand Size Comfortability

    After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both favor small hands .

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic:
    Big Hands
    Small Hands
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige:
    Big Hands
    Small Hands

    Beginner Friendliness

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic meets 4 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness, while the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige meets only 3. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players.

    New Player Friendliness

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic
    • Comfortable shape
    • Easy-to-use bridge
    • Tall frets
    • Comfortable neck
    • Comfortable fretboard
    • Narrow nut
    • Short scale
    • Locking tuners

    New Player Friendliness

    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
    • Comfortable shape
    • Tall frets
    • Comfortable neck
    • Comfortable fretboard
    • Narrow nut
    • Short scale
    • Locking tuners
    • Easy-to-use bridge

    Sound Quality Comparison

    The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

    Woods Used in the Epiphone Les Paul Classic

    Mahogany wood pattern used for guitar building
    Mahogany
    Laurel wood pattern used for guitar building
    Laurel

    Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.

    There are many types of Laurel, but East Indian is the most common for guitar building. Its color can vary from dark to light brown with black lines. Many people find its tonality similar to Rosewood, which favors the warmer frequencies. Find out more about Laurel.

    Woods Used in the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige

    Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
    Maple
    Ebony wood pattern used for guitar building
    Ebony
    Basswood wood pattern used for guitar building
    Basswood

    Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

    Ebony is a high-end wood, so it is not cheap. It's only used for fretboards because it's also very heavy. It does an excellent job as a durable material while looking elegant. Find out more about Ebony.

    Basswood is a lightweight type of wood that isn't as expensive as other popular choices for guitar building. It gives more power to the mid-range frequencies. Its color can vary from pale white to light brown. Find out more about Basswood.

    Winner: Tie.

    Pickup Configuration

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic has an HH configuration while the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige has HSH pickups.

    Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

    On the other hand, HSH is a versatile pickup configuration that will give you the high output, full tone, and quiet sound of humbucker pickups, but with the possibility of using a single coil for cleaner tones. The disadvantage is that the middle single-coil pickup will have a noticeable lower volume, so you might want to adjust the height of the pickups. Another problem is that if you set the middle pickup too high, it might interfere with your picking hand.

    Pickups Quality

    The Ibanez RG5170G Prestige pickups from a more specialized brand than the Epiphone Les Paul Classic. Its pickups should give you a fuller, richer sound, although it all depends on what type of music you're going to play. We recommend these pickups for Heavy Metal and similar genres.

    We found the same or similar pickups to the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's online:

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic's pickups are Passive while the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's are Active.

    Passive pickups are what most guitars use. These have a normal output that works well for most genres. However, Active pickups are the preferred choice of heavy metal players because they offer extra output thanks to their 9v battery, which results in a heavier, more distorted sound. Bear in mind that achieving a completely clean tone with them won't be easy. So if you want to also use clean tones, you might want to avoid Active pickups.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Versatility Comparison

    Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

    Switch Options

    The Ibanez RG5170G Prestige gives you 5 switch options while the Epiphone Les Paul Classic gives you 3. This means that the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige gives you more options to find the right pickup combination for the type of sound you want to achieve

    Both give you different pickup mod options.

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic offers Coil Split, Phase Out.

    Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.

    When the Phase Out option is activated, the pickups will ''work against each other'', meaning that they will cancel out their shared frequencies. The result is a very thin sound, instead of a full, rich tone. This is an interesting sound for genres like reggae or funk and has also been used in classic Hard Rock.

    On the other hand, the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige comes with the following: Multi-Voicing.

    Multi-Voicing means the pickups come with multiple ''voices'', which means they can change the tone and gain by a simple switch or knob. Piezo, Fishman and similar are considered multi-voicing pickups.

    When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Final Sound Quality Scores

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic
    Pickups 60
    Sustain 75
    Versatility 68
    Tuning Stability 70
    Sound 68
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
    Pickups 85
    Sustain 85
    Versatility 80
    Tuning Stability 85
    Sound 84

    Build Quality Comparison

    When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Epiphone Les Paul Classic compares to the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Country of Origin

    The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Epiphone Les Paul Classic is built in China while the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige is made in Japan.

    China has a bad reputation when it comes to building quality. However, times have changed and now respectable brands use China's cheap labor to build good instruments for a lower price. Don't discount a guitar only because it was built in China, but also expect more quality from countries like Korea.

    Japan has a long history of high-quality guitar building. Little has changed in terms of their manufacturing and quality control over the years. Many guitars made in this country can be compared—and even beat—others made in the US.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige

    Nut Material

    If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic has a Ivory Tusq nut. Ivory used to be considered the best material for guitar nuts due to its beauty, durability, and the rich harmonics and sustain you could get from a guitar with it. However, the way to obtain it is simply unethical. Enter TUSQ ivory nuts, which are made synthetically to imitate ivory. Technically, it's better than ivory because it is consistent piece-to-piece, while natural materials can vary a lot, even if they're made from the same.

    On the other hand, the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige comes with a Locking nut. Instead of a regular nut, this guitar has a locking system that will lock down the strings at the nut, preventing it from getting out of tune. It removes one of the disadvantages of tremolo bridges, tune stability.

    Winner: Tie.

    Fret Material

    Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

    In this comparison, the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige is the only one that has stainless steel frets. These frets will basically last for the entire life of the guitar. They will never need polishing nor replacement. And not only that, but some people also notice that bending and vibratos are much easier to perform when they upgrade to stainless steel.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Bridge

    The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic's brige is a Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.

    On the other hand, the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's is a Lo-Pro Edge. Similar to the original Edge bridge design by Ibanez, but with a lower profile (more discrete and less likely to interfere with your picking). It comes with the same improvements over Floyd Rose tremolos as the Edge: push-in arm, replaceable knife edges, more sustain, smaller saddles, and more. These bridges offer tons of versatility, but they also require more work than simpler tremolos to set up.

    Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Tuners

    Both come with regular tuners. The Epiphone Les Paul Classic's are Grover Rotomatic with 18:1 ratio while the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's are Gotoh machine heads

    Winner: Tie.

    Neck Joint

    Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic has a Set neck joint. This neck is tightly glued to the body. They give you the least versatility because you can't swap them for a neck that fits your hand better if you want to, unlike bolt-on necks. Some people think this gives more resonance and sustain, but there's no real difference if the bolt-on joint is well built.

    On the other hand, the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige comes with Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

    Winner: Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

    Strengths & Weaknesses
    Epiphone Les Paul Classic
    • Expensive Wood
    • Ivory Tusq Nut
    • Coil Split, Phase Out Pickups
    • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
    • No Locking Tuners
    • Made in China
    • No Top Brand Pickups
    • No Neck-Through Build
    • No Weight Relief
    • No Luminescent Inlay
    • No Tremolo
    • No Compound Radius Fretboard
    • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
    • No Strap Lock
    Strengths & Weaknesses
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
    • Stainless Steel Frets
    • Made in Japan
    • Expensive Wood
    • Locking Nut
    • Top Brand Pickups
    • Multi-Voicing Pickups
    • Luminescent Inlay
    • Tremolo
    • Retainer Bar
    • No Locking Tuners
    • No Neck-Through Build
    • No Weight Relief
    • No Compound Radius Fretboard
    • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
    • No Strap Lock

    Final Build Quality Scores

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic
    Quality of materials 70
    Features 55
    Quality Control 60
    Build Quality 62
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
    Quality of materials 71
    Features 75
    Quality Control 95
    Build Quality 80

    Playability Comparison

    Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

    Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

    Nut Width

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic Nut Width
    Both Guitars Have The Same Nut Width

    The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, both have a nut width of 43mm (1.693'').

    This is within the most common range of nut widths for a 6-string guitar. It offers a good balance of string separation at the nut. It's the size that most guitarists prefer as it gives them just enough space to play open chords without muting the strings, but without spreading the strings too wide and making bar chords difficult to perform.

    Scale Length

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic's Scale Length
    Epiphone Les Paul Classic's Scale Length
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's Scale Length
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's Scale Length

    The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

    The Ibanez RG5170G Prestige has the longest scale: 25.5". The Epiphone Les Paul Classic is only 24.75" long. This is a 0.75'' (19.1mm) scale length difference.

    This longer scale means that the strings need more tension to get in tune. This is good if you want to avoid fret buzz, which can happen when the strings are too loose and touch the frets while vibrating. This is especially important when playing in lower tunings. This will also let you reduce the gap between fretboard and strings (low action) to make them easier to press down. However, this higher tension will also make it harder to perform bends and vibratos as the strings will feel stiffer.

    This also means that the frets have a longer separation between each other, so this will make it harder for people with smaller hands when playing some chord positions.

    Another characteristic of a longer scale is that it makes the guitar sound 'snappier' or brighter. This is due to the extra separation between harmonics and overtones produced by the tension. This influences tone more than any other factor (except the pickups).

    Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

    Neck Profile

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic Neck Profile
    Epiphone Les Paul Classic's neck profile
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige Neck Profile
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's neck profile

    No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

    In this case, both have different neck shapes:

    The Epiphone Les Paul Classic has a C type of neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

    The Ibanez RG5170G Prestige, on the other hand, has a Super Wizard neck. Ibanez is famous for this neck shape. They're similar to C-shaped necks, but they're even thinner. Some people like it because it gives them all the free room they need to play fast single notes (shredding). But some people prefer a thicker type of neck they can grab and rest their hands more comfortably.

    Fretboard Radius

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic Fingerboard Radius
    Epiphone Les Paul Classic's Fingerboard radius
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige Fingerboard Radius
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's Fingerboard radius

    Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

    In this case, the Epiphone Les Paul Classic's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Ibanez RG5170G Prestige.

    Still, both tend to favor soloing over chords, so if you're looking for a guitar for playing rhythm, you might want something else with a radius closer to a Stratocaster's 9.5''.

    Fret Size

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic Frets Size
    Epiphone Les Paul Classic's Frets Size
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige Frets Size
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige's Frets Size

    The Ibanez RG5170G Prestige has Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Epiphone Les Paul Classic's Medium Jumbo frets.

    Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

    Final Playability Scores

    Epiphone Les Paul Classic
    Bending & Vibrato Ease 85
    Chord Playability 65
    Solo Playability 70
    Playability 73
    Ibanez RG5170G Prestige
    Bending & Vibrato Ease 80
    Chord Playability 50
    Solo Playability 90
    Playability 73