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Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V vs Ibanez RG80F Specs Comparison
Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Ibanez RG80F
General
Brand: Epiphone Ibanez
Year: 2019 2021
Configuration: HH HH
Strings: 6 8
Made in: China Indonesia
Series: Artist Collection RG
Colors: White Black
Left-Handed Version: No No
Body
Type: Solid Body Solid Body
Body Material: Mahogany Meranti
Bridge: LockTone ABR F108
Neck
Neck Joint: Set Bolt-On
Tuners: Grover Rotomatic; 18:1 ratio Ibanez
Fretboard: Hard Maple Rosewood
Neck Material: Mahogany Maple/Walnut
Decoration: White Dot
Scale Size: 24.75" 27"
Shape: Slim Taper Wizard II-8
Thickness: 1st Fret: 0.82'' (20.8mm) - 12th Fret: 0.92'' (23.4mm) 1st Fret: 0.79'' (20.1mm) - 12th Fret: 0.85'' (21.6mm)
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Nickel Silver 24 Jumbo Nickel Silver
Fretboard Radius: 12" 16"
Nut: Ivory Tusq Plastic
Nut Width: 42.7mm (1.68'') 55mm (2.165'')
Electronics
Bridge Pickups: ProBucker 3 (Humbucker / Passive) Fishman Fluence Modern Ceramic-8 (Humbucker / Active)
Middle Pickup:
Neck Pickup: ProBucker 2 (Humbucker / Passive) Fishman Fluence Modern Alnico-8 (Humbucker / Active)
Switch: 3 Way 3 Way
Knobs: Speed Dome
Pickup Mods: Coil Split Multi-Voicing
Volume Controls: 2 1
Tone Controls: 1 1
Hardware
Strap Lock: No No
Hardware Color: Chrome Gold
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Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's switch options
Ibanez RG80F pickups switch and push knobs diagram
Ibanez RG80F's switch options

Reasons to Get
Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V over Ibanez RG80F

Type of Frets
Medium Jumbo vs Jumbo
You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Slim Taper vs Wizard II-8
Comfortable neck that works for most people
Nut Material
Ivory Tusq vs Plastic
Resistant, good tuning stability and rich tone
Pickup Mods
Coil Split vs Multi-Voicing
Splits humbuckers into single coil pickups
Strings
6 vs 8
Narrower neck and fewer strings to change
Volume Knobs
2 vs 1
More volume control
Neck Thickness at 1st Fret
0.82'' (20.8mm) vs 0.79'' (20.1mm)
More comfortable open chords for big hands
Neck Thickness at 12th Fret
0.92'' (23.4mm) vs 0.85'' (21.6mm)
More comfortable at higher frets for big hands
Nut Width
1.68'' (42.7mm) vs 2.165'' (55mm)
Favors small hands, easier bar chords and other shapes
Scale Length
24.75'' (628.7mm) vs 27'' (685.8mm)
Easier bending, shorter fret separation and warmer natural tone
Fretboard Radius
12'' (304.8mm) vs 16'' (406.4mm)
Easier to play chords without muting strings
Pickups Power
Passive vs Active
Cleaner sound and no battery needed

Reasons to Get
Ibanez RG80F over Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V

Country of Manufacturing
Indonesia vs China
Built with higher quality standards
Release Year
2021 vs 2019
From a more recent year
Frets Height
Taller vs Shorter
Easier to press down strings and bend them
Type of Frets
Jumbo vs Medium Jumbo
You won't feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings
Neck Profile
Wizard II-8 vs Slim Taper
Thin neck for playing fast
Pickups Brand
Fishman vs None
Pickups from a renown brand
Pickup Mods
Multi-Voicing vs Coil Split
Changes the voice (tones or gain) of the pickups
Neck Joint
Bolt-On vs Set
Allows you to detach and swap the neck
Strings
8 vs 6
Allows you to play lower notes
Number of Frets
24 vs 22
Allows to reach higher notes
Neck Thickness at 1st Fret
0.79'' (20.1mm) vs 0.82'' (20.8mm)
More comfortable open chords for small hands
Neck Thickness at 12th Fret
0.85'' (21.6mm) vs 0.92'' (23.4mm)
More comfortable at higher frets for small hands
Nut Width
2.165'' (55mm) vs 1.68'' (42.7mm)
Less likely to mute strings by accident and more space for fingerstyle
Scale Length
27'' (685.8mm) vs 24.75'' (628.7mm)
Lower action and brighter natural tone
Fretboard Radius
16'' (406.4mm) vs 12'' (304.8mm)
Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend
Pickups Power
Active vs Passive
More output

Other Key Differences
Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V vs Ibanez RG80F

Bridge Pickup
ProBucker 3 vs Fishman Fluence Modern Ceramic-8
Different Bridge Pickup
Neck Pickup
ProBucker 2 vs Fishman Fluence Modern Alnico-8
Different Neck Pickup
Body Wood
Mahogany vs Meranti
Different Body Wood
Neck Wood
Mahogany vs Maple
Different Neck Wood
Fretboard Wood
Maple vs Rosewood
Different Fretboard Wood
Headstock
3-3 vs 4-4
Different Headstock
Nut Material
Ivory Tusq vs Plastic
Different Nut Material

Shared Features
Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V vs Ibanez RG80F

Body Type
Solid Body
Feedback free
Switch Positions
3
Same pickups versatility
Tone Knobs
1
Same tone control
Pickups
HH
High output without hum
Paint Finish
Poly
Resistant paint that ages well
Bridge
Fixed
Good sustain and needs no set-up

Common Strengths

  • Expensive Wood

Common Weaknesses

  • Weight Relief
  • Locking Tuners
  • Stays in Tune (Evertune)
  • High-Quality Frets
  • Compound Radius Fretboard
  • Luminescent Sidedots
  • Strap Lock
  • 21:1 Tuner Ratio
  • Active/Passive Preamp

Price History Comparison

Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Prices

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    Ibanez RG80F Prices

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      Hand Size Comfortability

      And after taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that the Ibanez RG80F favors large hands more than the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V.

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V:
      Big Hands
      Small Hands
      Ibanez RG80F:
      Big Hands
      Small Hands

      Beginner Friendliness

      Both meet 4 out of our 8 criteria items for beginner friendliness. This takes into account the type of frets, scale length, nut width, bridge type, fretboard radius, and neck profile to determine the easiest combination for new players. If you're looking for your first guitar to learn how to play, you can't go wrong with either of them.

      New Player Friendliness

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V
      • Easy-to-use bridge
      • Tall frets
      • Narrow nut
      • Comfortable neck
      • Comfortable shape
      • Comfortable fretboard
      • Short scale
      • Locking tuners

      New Player Friendliness

      Ibanez RG80F
      • Comfortable shape
      • Easy-to-use bridge
      • Tall frets
      • Comfortable neck
      • Comfortable fretboard
      • Narrow nut
      • Short scale
      • Locking tuners

      Sound Quality Comparison

      The wood used in an electric guitar or bass is not as important to determine the final tone. However, some people prefer specific wood types, so we'll take a look at those first. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument.

      Woods Used in Both

      Maple wood pattern used for guitar building
      Maple

      Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. The highest quality maple is the hardest that comes from North America. Find out more about Maple.

      Woods Used in the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V

      Mahogany wood pattern used for guitar building
      Mahogany

      Mahogany is a fairly rare wood nowadays. It's used mostly for bodies due to its relatively lightweight. Gibson popularized it with their Les Paul guitars during their golden years, so this wood has a lot of good reputation behind it. The most expensive type comes from South America and it's still used by Gibson even today. Find out more about Mahogany.

      Woods Used in the Ibanez RG80F

      Rosewood wood pattern used for guitar building
      Rosewood
      Meranti wood pattern used for guitar building
      Meranti

      Rosewood is an almost purple-looking wood that is used mainly for fretboards since it's heavy, rare, and expensive. It's sometimes used on acoustic guitar bodies to create stronger warm tones. Find out more about Rosewood.

      Meranti is an affordable wood used mainly for affordable electric guitars. It's generally lighter and softer than Mahogany. Find out more about Meranti.

      Winner: Tie.

      Pickup Configuration

      Both pickup configurations are HH. Double Humbucker (HH) is the choice for people who want a fuller, more round sound with tons of mids and lows. Humbuckers also get rid of the hum noise that plague single-coil pickups. They can work out for almost any genre going from Djent to even Jazz.

      Pickups Quality

      The Ibanez RG80F pickups from a more specialized brand than the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V. Its pickups should give you a fuller, richer sound, although it all depends on what type of music you're going to play. We recommend these pickups for Heavy Metal and similar genres.

      We found the same or similar pickups to the Ibanez RG80F's online:

      The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's pickups are Passive while the Ibanez RG80F's are Active.

      Passive pickups are what most guitars use. These have a normal output that works well for most genres. However, Active pickups are the preferred choice of heavy metal players because they offer extra output thanks to their 9v battery, which results in a heavier, more distorted sound. Bear in mind that achieving a completely clean tone with them won't be easy. So if you want to also use clean tones, you might want to avoid Active pickups.

      Winner: Ibanez RG80F.

      Versatility Comparison

      Some instruments offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. Below you'll find how both compare when it comes to versatility.

      Switch Options

      Both are equal when it comes to the pickup switching option.

      Both give you different pickup mod options.

      The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V offers Coil Split.

      Coil Split lets you disconnect one of the pickup coils. When used with humbuckers, it turns them into single-coil with lower output and cleaner tone.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG80F comes with the following: Multi-Voicing.

      Multi-Voicing means the pickups come with multiple ''voices'', which means they can change the tone and gain by a simple switch or knob. Piezo, Fishman and similar are considered multi-voicing pickups.

      When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more.

      Winner: Ibanez RG80F.

      Final Sound Quality Scores

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V
      Pickups 60
      Sustain 75
      Versatility 61
      Tuning Stability 70
      Sound 67
      Ibanez RG80F
      Pickups 85
      Sustain 85
      Versatility 64
      Tuning Stability 65
      Sound 75

      Build Quality Comparison

      When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the instrument. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Let's see how the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V compares to the Ibanez RG80F.

      Country of Origin

      The manufacturing country can tell a lot about the build quality of an instrument. The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V is built in China while the Ibanez RG80F is made in Indonesia.

      China has a bad reputation when it comes to building quality. However, times have changed and now respectable brands use China's cheap labor to build good instruments for a lower price. Don't discount a guitar only because it was built in China, but also expect more quality from countries like Korea.

      Indonesia is becoming the most popular country for guitar building because they can make good instruments for a low price. Some people think that they're 'the new China' when it comes to build quality. But the truth is that Indonesian guitars are more consistent, although Chinese quality has improved a lot in the last few years.

      Winner: Ibanez RG80F

      Nut Material

      If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Nut quality can be inconsistent even when comparing two copies of the same model. The best way to make sure you're nut will be well done is by getting a nut made by an expert company like TUSQ or Micarta.

      The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V has a Ivory Tusq nut. Ivory used to be considered the best material for guitar nuts due to its beauty, durability, and the rich harmonics and sustain you could get from a guitar with it. However, the way to obtain it is simply unethical. Enter TUSQ ivory nuts, which are made synthetically to imitate ivory. Technically, it's better than ivory because it is consistent piece-to-piece, while natural materials can vary a lot, even if they're made from the same.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG80F comes with a Plastic nut. This is a low-quality nut that you might want to consider upgrading soon. Bone and TUSQ nuts are the best for guitars with a fixed or simple tremolo bridge.

      Winner: Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V.

      Fret Material

      Most fret wire is made of nickel silver. This material eventually wears down after a lot of use and most instruments end up needing a complete fret replacement. However, some expensive models come with stainless steel frets. This is what you should aim for if you can afford it.

      Unfortunately, none of them come with stainless steel frets.

      Winner: Tie.

      Bridge

      The perfect bridge for you will depend on your playstyle because they all have advantages and disadvantages. However, some bridges are more expensive—like Floyd Roses and Evertunes—and thus add more value to a guitar.

      Both come with a similar bridge: Fixed. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. You can swap strings easily. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. However, it doesn't have the same versatility as a tremolo bridge.

      Since we need to be objective, the most expensive type of bridge will be the winner of this section. In the end, this doesn't matter if you're not going to use the bridge for its original purpose, so choose the bridge that fits your playing style better.

      Winner: Tie.

      Tuners

      Both come with regular tuners. The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's are Grover Rotomatic; 18:1 ratio while the Ibanez RG80F's are Ibanez

      Winner: Tie.

      Neck Joint

      Contrary to popular belief, the difference in sustain and tone that some neck joints give to a guitar is simply unperceivable—if they're all well built. However, some of them do have advantages over the others.

      The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V has a Set neck joint. This neck is tightly glued to the body. They give you the least versatility because you can't swap them for a neck that fits your hand better if you want to, unlike bolt-on necks. Some people think this gives more resonance and sustain, but there's no real difference if the bolt-on joint is well built.

      On the other hand, the Ibanez RG80F comes with Bolt-On neck joint. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar.

      Winner: Ibanez RG80F.

      Here is the list of features that were considered when choosing the winner in the Features subcategory:

      Strengths & Weaknesses
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V
      • Expensive Wood
      • Ivory Tusq Nut
      • Coil Split Pickups
      • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
      • No Locking Tuners
      • Made in China
      • No Top Brand Pickups
      • No Neck-Through Build
      • No Weight Relief
      • No Luminescent Inlay
      • No Tremolo
      • No Compound Radius Fretboard
      • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
      • No Strap Lock
      Strengths & Weaknesses
      Ibanez RG80F
      • Expensive Wood
      • Top Brand Pickups
      • Multi-Voicing Pickups
      • Cheap Fret Wire (NS)
      • No Locking Tuners
      • Made in Indonesia
      • No High-Quality Nut
      • No Neck-Through Build
      • No Weight Relief
      • No Luminescent Inlay
      • No Tremolo
      • No Compound Radius Fretboard
      • No 21:1 Tuner Ratio
      • No Strap Lock

      Final Build Quality Scores

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V
      Quality of materials 66
      Features 55
      Quality Control 60
      Build Quality 60
      Ibanez RG80F
      Quality of materials 41
      Features 55
      Quality Control 70
      Build Quality 55

      Playability Comparison

      Let's now compare their playability. Bear in mind that the instrument will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. That's why you should always test before buying. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the instrument for you. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar might be to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other.

      Remember that, even though the difference might seem small, every inch counts when it comes to feeling of the instrument in your hands. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands.

      Nut Width

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Nut Width
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Nut Width
      Ibanez RG80F Nut Width
      Ibanez RG80F Nut Width

      The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. In this comparison, the Ibanez RG80F has the wider nut with 55mm (2.165'') vs 42.7mm (1.68''). This is a 12.3mm (0.485'') difference

      This means that it will be more difficult to do bar chords on the Ibanez RG80F, especially closer to the nut. However, it's also easier to play without muting strings accidently. This favors people with big hands.

      Scale Length

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's Scale Length
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's Scale Length
      Ibanez RG80F's Scale Length
      Ibanez RG80F's Scale Length

      The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. This is the distance between the nut and the bridge and will affect everything from low action allowance, difficulty to perform bends, fret separation, and even tone.

      The Ibanez RG80F has the longest scale: 27". The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V is only 24.75" long. This is a 2.25'' (57.2mm) scale length difference.

      This longer scale means that the strings need more tension to get in tune. This is good if you want to avoid fret buzz, which can happen when the strings are too loose and touch the frets while vibrating. This is especially important when playing in lower tunings. This will also let you reduce the gap between fretboard and strings (low action) to make them easier to press down. However, this higher tension will also make it harder to perform bends and vibratos as the strings will feel stiffer.

      This also means that the frets have a longer separation between each other, so this will make it harder for people with smaller hands when playing some chord positions.

      Another characteristic of a longer scale is that it makes the guitar sound 'snappier' or brighter. This is due to the extra separation between harmonics and overtones produced by the tension. This influences tone more than any other factor (except the pickups).

      Lastly, remember that you can also affect the tension of the strings by changing your string gauge. You can use a thicker gauge for more tension and a lighter one for less tension.

      Neck Profile

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Neck Profile
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's neck profile
      Ibanez RG80F Neck Profile
      Ibanez RG80F's neck profile

      No single neck shape is better than others. However, most people tend to prefer a thinner necks because it doesn't get in their way when playing fast and most hand sizes can adapt to it pretty well. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands.

      In this case, both have different neck shapes:

      The Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V has a C type of neck. This is what you'll find in most modern guitars. Most people feel like the thickness of a C neck is simply the less intrusive one for playing fast, while at the same time allowing you to grab the neck easily for resting if you want to.

      The Ibanez RG80F, on the other hand, has a Wizard neck. This is thinner than most C-type necks. It won't get in your way if you want to play fast solos. It's not as slim as 'Super Wizard' necks, so it might fit you better if you don't like ultra-thin necks.

      Fretboard Radius

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Fingerboard Radius
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's Fingerboard radius
      Ibanez RG80F Fingerboard Radius
      Ibanez RG80F's Fingerboard radius

      Most guitar fretboards are not flat; they usually have a curve or arc across their width. A curved fretboard will make it easier to perform chords without muting strings, while a flatter one will make it easier to play single notes, which is good for bending and soloing in general. The best fretboards have a compound radius that varies across the fingerboard, but they're not common since they take a lot more work to build.

      In this case, the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Ibanez RG80F's. This extra arc will make playing chords easier in this model. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. However, playing single notes and bending will be easier on the Ibanez RG80F.

      Still, both tend to favor soloing over chords, so if you're looking for a guitar for playing rhythm, you might want something else with a radius closer to a Stratocaster's 9.5''.

      Fret Size

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V Frets Size
      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's Frets Size
      Ibanez RG80F Frets Size
      Ibanez RG80F's Frets Size

      The Ibanez RG80F has Jumbo frets, which should be taller than the Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V's Medium Jumbo frets.

      Some people prefer taller frets because they result in more sustain since the strings get pressed cleanly without interference from the fretboard. However, if they're too tall—like Jumbo frets—, you might change the pitch of the strings accidentally if you press too hard because you won't be touching the fretboard with your fingers. This is also why some guitarists with a heavy grip prefer smaller frets. They like to feel the fingerboard to avoid pressing down too hard and getting out of pitch.

      Final Playability Scores

      Epiphone Dave Rude Flying V
      Bending & Vibrato Ease 85
      Chord Playability 75
      Solo Playability 70
      Playability 77
      Ibanez RG80F
      Bending & Vibrato Ease 85
      Chord Playability 50
      Solo Playability 90
      Playability 75